rotorpower27

so recently my car has been smoking alot on startup, so i thought that maybe there was alot of built up oil in the gas tank from premixing. so i draind the entire tank and filled it back up with no premix. thinking that this was my problem. i let the car sit over night, i woke up hoping it wouldnt fill the street with smoke, i was disapointed.
the car smoked just as bad as it did with the premix.

so what do you think is going on with my motor, are the seals about to go, will i drop a tip seal?

im not drivng it right now, and i dont have the money or the time to do anything too extreme, im soo sad!, i love my car.

what do you think i should do?

thanks for the help in advance.

don iz will

are u having trouble starting it and/or overheating problems

SirCygnus

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first off, what color is the smoke? blue, black, or white?

Syncro

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I think...

White is coolant (your coolant level would be dropping).

Blue is oil (your oil level would be dropping).

Black is unburned gas (your engine would be flooding).

Even if what I just said is pure crap, we still need more detail!

rotorpower27

it starts up just fine, and then about 30 sec later it starts to smoke.

mainly white, no black


first off i have removed the oil pump, so my oil level wont drop( i am premixing, as i mentioned though, there is no oil in the tank right now)

second, i keep my overflow tank for the radiator to the top to be able to see if it drops, i havent checked that recently. i will check itright now... **** its half full, its late, so i will check it 2maro. i will fill it and let it run.
the thing is that the smoke is vizible for a long time, i dont think it is colant.

the smoke will disapear after i drive the car for a while and it is up to normal running temp.

any other things i can check?

Carzy Driver

does the smoke smell sweet?

KeeganP

Be sure to check coolant in radiator/waterneck, whichever you've got. Don't just check the overflow tank. Of course do this when its cool.

Just ignore me if you know/have done this already

rotorpower27

somthing i forgot to add. its a 88 GXL NA, with 160XXX miles on it, the power hasnt varried to much from not smoking to smoking.

jm93rx7

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This is my car a few days ago http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...79344882745239 I found out it has a bad oil seal.

rotorpower27

thats exactly what it looks like, what did you have to do?

bad oil seal where? on one of the rotors?

jm93rx7

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Internal oil seal. I read all those quick fix options Like the oil stop leak and stuff but i chose to go with a rebuild. I heard in the long run when you go to do a rebuild your chances of having re usable are not to good.

rotorpower27

will i notice a drop in oil presure if theis seal has gone bad??

bacek

save for a rebuild its due time.....

if your considering going turbo it would probably be easier and maybe cheaper to find a t2 instead of turning your gxl->t2....

at the prices of some rebuild shops like kevin landers (rotaryressurection.com) or dave(rotaryheads.com) its just as cheap if not cheaper than a lot of other piston engines out there

the sooner you get to rebuild (or the less miles you put on your engine before you rebuild) the more likely there will be reuseable parts

jm93rx7

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I didnt have a loss in oil press but the car was going through alot of oil and i was barely driving it.

jm93rx7

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i recommend the same.

rotorpower27

thank you for all of your help, too bad the news isnt what i wanted to hear. i was planning on rebuilding the motor, but not now...

jm93rx7

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The motor you see in the video i bought it, and installed it after the other one blew, The video was taken after about 1 mile worth of drive time and about 150 dollars worth of belts ,hoses, plugs and other little stuff. Thas not including the price of the motor. Just trying to save you from spending unecesarry money

MrFC3S

so wait, all that smoke is from an oil leak??? thats i think is coolent, if your missing some in the res, thats probably it...
how low is your pressure?

jm93rx7

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My oil press was 45 to 50 psi at idle. and the car wasnt over heating.

arghx

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sorry dude, but your motor is about to die. rebuild time.

Oh and the stock oil pressure gauge is especially inaccurate at idle. My aftermarket one will read like mid to high 20s on my s4 n/a while the stock gauge will look like it's in the high 30s or so.

spot_skater

Mine died without smoking...except on decel after redline. Then one day, at 6500 in fourth, she threw an apex seal. I'm still in mourning...

I'm with the other guys, save up for a rebuild.

don iz will

thats what my car was doin the other day except mine was a bitch to start and it would have all the white smoke comin out wich would go away after say a minutes driving. it was also overheating pretty quick needless to say its being rebuilt at the moment for bad coolant seals so whatever the prob is it involves a rebuild :/

jm93rx7

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I put 4 quarts of oil in that motor and i drove it about a mile down the street came back let it idle for about 30 min and when i checked the oil it barely had any and it had no oil leaks. The motor starts right up even after that but it eats the oil.

bacek

yes... do yourself a favor start saving up for a rebuild there are things that might be done to mask your problem heck you can even drive a rotary while it is blown, but you should just save your money and time and trouble and just start saving for a rebuild tight now

rotorpower27

for a rebuild, is it cheaper to buy turbo housings rather than na housings, if the housings are bad?
cuz i would like to port my motor.