p.trudel

Hey guys, hows it goin...Pat here from northern ontario...looking into buying a 1987 RX-7, with the non-turbo 13B engine...now...money isn't an issue(to a certain point of course) and i wanna be runnin boost by spring.

Where should I be looking, and at what? I'm new to the game of boost...Any help is greatly appreciated.

RandomHero

iTrader: (2)

You would be much better off finding a turbo2 instead of turbocharging a 6-port (non-turbo) engine, or swapping one in. they are tough to find, but if money is no issue, your chances are greatly improved.

p.trudel

well...see, the non turbo i'm gettin for $750 brought to my door...good running condition...that's why i'm kinda maybe goin that way...

wonder if i could just find a totaled turbo RX7 and drop in the engine....

Aaron Cake

iTrader: (1)

Turbocharging the non turbo is NOT a bolt on. Requires fabrication of almost every part (manifolds, downpipe, intercooler piping, TID, etc. etc. etc.) and upgrades to the stock fuel system.

Check out the FAQ for answers to all your questions.

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

hey, someone with an RX-7 from further north in Ontario than me

well, the easiest way to do this:

find a turbo parts car/try to buy the following:
- engine (shortblock or core)
- ECU
- transmission
- driveshaft
- differential
- half shafts

those are the basic things you will need, and so you will practically be swapping out everything having to do with the power and drive train.

if you can do all the work yourself or have someone you know help you, this project actually won't cost you that much. just be sure you know what you are getting into.

- Aaron

p.trudel

pembroke eh...once i'm done this should arrange to maybe meet up...as far as doing the work goes, i'm pretty good in mech stuff....and i've got 3 buddies that are licensed mechs too...so i'm not too worried...i'm anxious to start

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

cool, all the power to you then

oh, and unfortunately Pembroke is about a 5 hour drive from New Liskeard...but hey, let me know, i'm usually game for anything.

p.trudel

lol...5 hours is not a big drive for a meet for me man....usually end up drivin to niagara falls or detroit for the car show..


*quick question, if i didn't go boost, can i see some good #'s anyways?*

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

well that's a whole topic altogether. it really depends how you want to use the car.

staying non-turbo it's going to take a lot to go fast in a straight line without doing some serious engine work.

but it should be noted that it's not hard to make as much power as the stock TII with the non-turbo. to do so though, it will require you to build an engine that is "ported". you can read up more on it here:
http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/re101/ports.php

i personally really like the non-turbos. since you don't have much power you have to pay more attention to the "details".
i'm planning on doing an engine build over the winter. i'm aiming at 200 whp, which is not too hard to get, but if i a threw a similar amont of money at a turbo it would be much faster.

other advantages to NA include being more reliable and tolerant to abuse, better on gas (don't know if that's an issue for you), and you can make a much lighter car.

i like to think that it's not all about power. in fact on many of the meets when we go on cruises, there might be monster 400hp cars and fast 3rd gens, but the cars in front are usually non-turbo. it's all about what you do with it

- Aaron

p.trudel

well...it will be used on the drag strip...so i don't want it to be slower then the alero...please got let it be quicker then a 16@87 (which is what my 2.4DOHC olds runs stock) i may do the turbo swap...or build my own system like i been tryin to read up on...we'll see...only the future...and the bank....will tell

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

there are quite a few non-turbos running in the 14s for the 1/4 mile, without any radical engine modifications.
but really they are better suited for a twisty road a race track.
you could also look into lightening the car if you stay NA.

but yeah, the turbo can do very well at the drag strip.

p.trudel

we'll see what happens...i'm hopin to become a rotary guy for sure tho

staticguitar313

iTrader: (2)

turbo n/a:
turbo intake manifolds (must port match)
Turbo BAC, ACV, Anything on the manifolds
Fuel pump
coolant/oil lines
down pipe
new vac lines
turbo throttle cable
turbo/ manifold
boost guage
a/f guage
boost controller
the list goes on
itd probably be easier if you just used turbo intake manifolds, that way, you dont need to cut the frame, make a custom DP etc.

flatlandin_man23

hey, dont know if this will help any, but i turboed my 86 N/A 13b and am pretty happy with the results. I have about 1500$ in it, i know, i def. could have bought a T2 engine for that much, but i like being able to say that i turboed my N/A. Here is some pics if you want to check it out..... http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/...=26333#content . Hope that helps some.

Wes4Lif

you can always just buy a turbo 2 engine. jdm-online.com sells them for $650 and you dont have to go looking around at a junk yard or try to turbo your N/A by your self.

just an thought

p.trudel

thanks for the link man...you just made life easier then all hell

kontakt

It's usually a good idea to rebuild those cheap engines though... who knows how long or where they sat, what the internals look like, etc.

p.trudel

oh for sure...even if was gonna just turbo the NA, i was plannin on a rebuild anyways...


man, you guys are really helpful compared to some other forums i'm active on