Michelob779

i just registered here i wanted to post,
im 17 so dont have much funds but i love cars more then anything,
id just like some adivce on what the best performance parts are for the
price,
thnx

KompressorLOgic

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exhaust! RB header and something else the rest of the way.everything else u probably cant afford...

staticguitar313

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High flow cat
K&N intake
weight reduction if thats your cup of tea (its the cheapset mod, free)

save your money and dont buy anything stupid like aluminum wings, LED shifters, underglo kits or crappy fiberglass body kits. Buy avoiding these you'll accumulate enough money to have your motor rebuilt and ported which is a great mod.

S-AFC II piggy-back fuel computer
emissions removal (only if you can get away with it)
A/C removal if you dare
basically free up any dead weight you dont need, the less the car has to move around the faster it accelerates

KompressorLOgic

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yeah exhaust intake and weight reduction.

get a single exit exhaust or somthing.. the stock catback ways a TON!!! if u got a steel hood buy a allumnim one

ilike2eatricers

How much money do you have?

Someone had to say this but

If you're low on funds you can't afford the best. If I were you I'd spend a portion of what you were going to spend on mods and spent it on maintenance first. First thing to do is a tune up.

TwEaK

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or you can buy my car already done =D lol

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...35#post4671435

TwEaK

iceblue

ilike2eatricers - gets my vote on what to do.
Here is my list of things I will do on any future purchase of a FC.

Check COMPRESSION and coolant pressure test. If pass and good car I buy it. Or buy knowingly needing new motor.

Go home and…..
New calipers all the way around. There cheep! If not 4 piston in front upgrade with a big brake kit from bear or brembo. Or do a 5 lug swap from a 5lug FC.

New pads.

New rotors - Bear or Brembo "my preferance"

Stainless steal lines - if not already there

Suspension , bushings, springs, struts. If not done very close to my purchase date

New plugs and wires.

New Water Thermo sensor.

Check and replace as needed TPS

New belts

AC level check.

Power Steering check and add fluid as needed.

Air filter or CAI/TID

Clean the crap out of the motor and engine bay.

Remove BACV "preference"

Vacuum rack removal and all new VAC lines.

New fuel lines

New fuel filter

Clean injectors - If not already done recently.

Test OMP and clean/replace if needed

Flush all fluids and replace with Royal Purple fluids. "RP preference"

Replace shifter bushings if worn.

Replace any bad electronics inside car.

Replace exhaust as needed.

Replace clutch / components as needed.

This should give you a rock solid FC.

ddub

^^^
Some of that stuff is definitely not needed in a tune up, for example stainless steel lines? Why? New rotors? How about resurfacing? Big break kit? Why? Does a stock n/a (currently) need to stop that much faster? No...

Lots of that stuff you should CHECK, not just replace because you think it might be needed. This is a much more in depth list of tune up procedures.

"Check for leaks EVERYWHERE air/fluid/fuel/exhaust

Check or replace:

Engine Oil and Filter
Tranny Fluid
Differential Fluid
Radiator Flush
Radiator Hoses 5/8th and 3/8th
Radiator caps
Thermostat
Brake Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Power Steering Fluid
Spark Plugs
Spark Plug Wires
Coils
Timing
Throttle Position Sensor
Idle Speed
Idle Mixture
Battery Terminals Tight (not too tight)
Air Filter
Vacuum Hoses 3.5mm/6mm/10mm
Fuel Filter - In Tank and High Pressure
Fuel Lines 5/16th High Pressure
Pulsation Damper
Injectors Cleaned
Belts
Compression Test
Check Fuel Pump Voltage
Tranny Bushings/Seals
Brake Pads
Brake Line Hoses and Connections
Brake Caliper Operation
Wheel Bearings
Tie Rod Boots/Ball Joint Boots
Axle Boots
Suspension Bushings Control Arms/Sway Bars
Struts/Springs
Torque Lug Nuts
Tire Pressure
Tire Wear
Windshield Wipers
Headlights/Turn Signals/Brake Lights etc

General check of wires in engine bay for damage or corrosion

General check for loose bolts/nuts/parts

Get an Alignment

Do Grounding:
Leading Coil 10 gauge
Trailing Coil 10
Pressure Sensor 10
ECU 10
Firewall to bell housing 4
Battery Negative to Body to Engine 4
Fuel Injection Harness Under UIM 10


Get some Smart Fuses"

Original thread https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=279688


As far as performance goes, please search, this question is almost asked daily, it's getting annoying.

2slow4stock

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Ditto for what Ddub, and iceblue said or basicly fix anything that is wrong with the car first. NO MODS YET!!! First problems first.

Jager

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Go dDub! I was about to give a smart *** reply before you beat me to it.

SonicRaT

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READ THE FAQ!$!#)!*@$

RotaryEvolution

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ditto

Wankels-Revenge

I'm with dDub....that tune up stuff alone should keep you fairly busy for a while

iceblue

Indded I left out a few things Why be a smart *** on the brakes and ****? I said this is what I will do on any future purchas of a FC, besides calipers are 40$ each and 70 in rear. Thats how I do things. Stainless steal lines? Your in there spend a few get it done. You can get them done for 15$ each. Rotors there 50$ each for some Brembo or bear rotors. Now a upgrade kit thats up to you. This is safty and I do not like to dick around here. I can see cuting the rotors, but replace the rest, its worth wile.If it is a checkable item I stated check and replace as needed.

ilike2eatricers

Come on man a BBK (big brake kit) is worth more than value of 75% of FC's out there. That's not maintenance that's pretty much hardcore track only car modification.

ddub

Smart ***? You were implying, in the way you presented your post and list, that those things are part of a TUNE UP. Do not go around giving bad advice on things that are not needed for most people on this board, otherwise they'll end up going out and wasting money on things they may not have had to, instead they should concentrate on the things they need sooner than others, and eventually work through the list.

Why have ss brake lines made if your current brake lines are in good condition? No point, unless they are questionable or deterorating, but again this is why I say "good condition."

Big brakes aren't necessarily safety on the STREET. If you need them to be safe on the street, well then you're not driving safely to begin with.


Did you? You said:

New pads - CHECK your pads, not all pads are needing replacement, especially if the last owner already did this.

New rotors - same as above.

New plugs and wires - again same as above, check the wires for resistance and per the FSM specs, then decide if you need new ones.

New water thermo sensor - same thing, check the resistance with varying temperatures of water as per the FSM.

New belts - a good idea, but again CHECK first.

Air filter or CAI/TID - Depending on the filter and when it had been replaced, that's an alright suggestion, but why CAI and TID? Some people don't need those and prefer to keep the stock air box.

Vac rack removal and new vac lines - Uhhh, some people need to pass emissions so vac rack removal is NOT a tune up procedure, it's an option. Check vac lines, don't just replace assuming it's needed

New fuel lines - check...


My point is, if you're going to refer to tune up procedures, do it properly. And if this is just what "you" are going to do, then make it more clear. The way your post reads, at least to me, it seems like you're saying people SHOULD do this for a tune up.

Michelob779

hey guys
thnx for the input and i have a 97 grandprix to drive daily,
the rx-7 is a project car so i dont have to worry about winter or anything,
and i did buy it for 500 bucks,
all that was wrong was the front caliper was stuck and i have replaced those already other then that it will take a sticker
and somebody asked i got 1400 saved up right now
and im makin about 2-3 hundred a week, and right now i dont have much expenses, so i think i got more money then the average 17, and i will to go all out race car with this thing, just wanted some advice

iceblue

I will agree on tune up standards Ddub has a much more comprehensive list. I also agree I left out some stuff. I also agree I did not state between replacing calipers and option of upgrading to 4piston 5lug or big brake setup. I thought me saying this is what I will do on any future purchase of a FC made it clear this is what I find valid for my needs and here is a guide line to pick apart. To me a 30$ part if not new is not worth checking. Just replace it don’t worry about it any more. Again that is how I feel about doing stuff. Wires plugs if they are not brand new on the car I would just drive down to store and buy new ones. Again this is how I build a car up. Even with emissions I suggest the VAC rack removed, simply b/c it cleans it up and will give the user a really sound understanding of what everything down there is. It is quite confusing. Checking VAC lines is not in my book, they cost like 25cents a foot, just redo them.

The FC I post on here about is not mine. I suggest what I think is best and how I would do it. The decision is made by the owner and I do as they want. I simply wrench the car and buy most the parts.

Michelob779 – Fair warning. I am glad you want to build a race car and hope it works well for you. Building one takes a long time and a lot of money. I only say this b/c I see time and time again people think they can build a race car with 3grand and a month of time. Take your time buy the right parts and do it right the first time. I know it costs a few more bux but in the long run, it will look bettor, it will save you money, and a lot of headaches.

Alex Rodriguez

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start with buying a turbo 2 engine and ecu and you will have fun

Michelob779

yea i wasnt think actually a car to race, i should have said i would put performance
higher on the list then looks,
and everyone keeps talking about the vac lines,
can some1 please explain this to me,
im willing to do hard work to car, just wish there was more i could do with out spending money

Alex Rodriguez

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well in that cash just remove all emissions and dead weight and you will be fine

staticguitar313

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actually i think your first mod should be to buy a Haynes Manual or Factory Service Manual (FSM) or use the online FSM although this is always easily accesible when you working on the car.