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Old 11-25-01, 11:58 AM
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I want the extra power of the later turbo - '89-91

How can I get the extra 20 or so hp of the '89 tII on a '88 motor? What's the diff?
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I believe that the 89+ engines have light-weight rotors and some other tweaks that give them a higher redline, also the wastegate on the turbo is different, makes a little more boost I think. There are some other small differences also.
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you can do lots of **** to make up for it.
The biggest is Higher Compression
Second Lighter Rotors
89 turbo
89 exhuast manifold
89 intercooler
thats about it
but essentially a s4(88) motor can be made w/ more overall HP b/c of the lower compression. when i converted my gxl to a J-spec, Haltech, etc etc crazy *** turbo II guess which motor i picked. oh yes as rebuilds/j-specs they are generally cheaper too. my $.02
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get an intake, exhaust, and raise the boost to 8psi or so and you'll made up for more of it. might need an fcd too.
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I agree with Scott 89T2.
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For exhaust I think use 2.5" stainless tubing from the back of the converters to the bumper, with an X-pipe in the middle to equalize pressure. As for intake, I don't want a k&n does anybody make foam filters for RX? Also, intake, I want a cold-air unit like stock.

Also, where can I get the "MAZDA" decal on the airbox? I really want one.
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foam filters suck, they don't filter. x pipe?? you mean Y? there is no need to equal pressure, it's still only basicly a single exhaust, you don't have a v8.... get a down pipe and high flow cat, you power will go way up. you could just get a drop in k&n to keep the stock cold air, other wise your have to build your own.
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well, my tII has a dual exhaust.

a K&N doesn't filter very well, does flow tho.
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Originally posted by SIX TWO SLEEPER
well, my tII has a dual exhaust.

a K&N doesn't filter very well, does flow tho.
All 2nd Gens have a pseudo-dual exhaust. Look under your car...see the y-pipe? If you want to open yer exhaust up and to lose weight, then you could simply run a single muffler system. That's what I'm doing, simply because of my budget and the fact that my 90 TII is porky enough.

Get an APEXI filter, I saw an independent study on them and they filtered the best out of any filter they tested...plus they happened to flow the best too.
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yeah i see the y............ i am thinking about kicking the muffler and just having two 2.5" pipes from each catalytic.
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it won't do anything but make more noise, if you want power you need to get rid of the cats, buy a down pipe and mid pipe. the bonez from www.rx7.com are good. anything bigger then that and you will need fuel mods. you probably will anyways though.
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Question

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89 intercooler
How's the INTERCOOLER different in 89? I thought it was exactly the SAME!
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I think the inlet hole is bigger.
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Originally posted by Scott 89t2
I think the inlet hole is bigger.
*cough* PORT IT!
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Originally posted by Node

*cough* PORT IT!
Will that HELP create more POWER or better FLOW?...cause I can take mine to a MUFFLER SHOP and have them FLARE it up...I've seen 'em do that to muffler pipes so that they fit over a bigger pipe diameter.
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isn't the hole plastic?? can't flare that... the 89-91 is metal but it's super thin.

I think the hole size is the same but it gets biger as it gets to the IC.
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oh well, get a FMIC lol
but anyways don't just try to get a 89esque motor, just upgrade it to as powerful as you want, one thing that helps a little bit and will be an upgrade you can use all the way is removing the belt driven fan with an electric fan you bought or got in a junkyard.
Go to a junkyard and get a big one, there was a thread about this maybe a week or two ago, try searching for it. Only frees up maybe 2hp or so but its still more power. Some people say they can feel it.
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