Vintech

Let me give you a some info on how this beast ended up in my driveway


(I don't know year or any history on this car)

I'm in college and still live at home, I have a sister in High School. I was asked to help out my sisters boyfriend, he has a thing for RX-7's (I think they are great but i'm a honda man myself) She tells me that he is buying another RX-7 (I was on this forum in late 05 trying to help sell his other RX-7 *non turbo* and I had to do that cool fuel pump on a switch because it had that problem *thanks by the way*) All i was told was that they wanted to know if i could put back on a turbo for him because the people that he was buying it from took the upgraded one and were giving him the stock unit. I said sure I'll see what I can do. This is what was plopped in my driveway today.


I was under the impression that the turbo was the only thing removed


everything is unclipped (I don't know how these engines are wired up)


engine shot








This wiring sucks ***


thats one way to run a wire (i guess)




there's the turbo, along with everything else except the radiator


This is part of the injector wiring


I thought this was priceless, i guess not protected enough (Vin matches title)


Here is the beast next to my ride, both don't run my timing belt went and killed my head (it's a garage of pain)

So here's the deal, I have no clue what to do. This has been thrusted upon me. Do I try to piece this thing back together. or try to drop this into his non turbo that he has, can i just switch over the turbo pieces to his non turbo engine with out having a turbo harness. These RX-7's are the exact opposite of my genre i'm use to Front wheel drive, NA , four bangers. Not Rear wheel drive , turbo, rotaries. I need some input from you guys.

I'm told him that the best bet is to try to swap the motors or do the turbo conversion to his and switch the cool turbo body pieces (mirrors, hood, spoiler, rear glass*it has that sticker*)

sar

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Wow, that is a lot of work, I wonder if the engine even works. You cannot just put the turbo stuff on the NA, different pieces cause clearance issues and there is no oil or coolant tap ( you could do it with a lil work if you wanted. Also to run the conversion you would need some sort of boost management. If the white car runs I would say go ahead and try to find somebody who does rotaries who can put it back together.

I would not do this much work for somebody for free, even if related. I think it would probably take one of us 4-5 straight dedicated hours to just just figure out what all is there and put it on. Then you would need to do the wiring which based on its condition could take a long time to rewire. To finish you would need to to the vacuum lines. It would be a lot of hard tedious work and knowledge.

liv

yea you don't even know how much work you have ahead of yourself IF you decide to put that thing back together

I called it a thing not a beast

I would get that thing out of my driveway and save the headache personally

jgrts20

wow,no wonder he had wire issues. Holy **** that engine probly wont even run. As for all those wires ....................all I can say is wow, I have a headache now.

matts86fc3s

where arey ou located?

Eternal_Gamer

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Its pretty easy. i meant for me though. It will be a little difficult for you because you haven't got the chance to tear it down or do anything to it. I say pull the motor out, and start putting all the stuff on. Get the factory service manual because that might help. Hopefully everything is there and good luck.

Syncro

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If you plan on doing this for free please keep in mind the following: you will regret this.

Get rid of that POS, there is a LOT of work that needs to be done before you can even get the engine in a cranking condition. Then theres a huge chance the engine is blown, and you need to tear everything down. And start over. This is way beyond your typical high school kid's budget.

Vintech

I know it looks like one big cluster fruck. I didn't even realize i that there was no radiator until i posted this. I think I'm gonna tell him to put a stop on the check and have that piece towed back to the house. I'm in milwaukee.

"You have to help him, you are really good with cars!" - My mom

"He got shafted nasty!" - Me after popping some asprin

so I can't put the turbo pieces on the NA. that was my only real option. That wire harness is bad news.

The kid tells me today that this car was a 600 HP track car. Yeah right, in someone's wet dream.

Brody8877

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w0w, that look like a mess!
It would be a good project car, but good luck on putting everything back.
Turbo stuff dont fit N/A and it is goin to take you awhile to put things back and getting the correct parts.

eriksseven

iTrader: (6)

Nice...

sar

iTrader: (1)

Anybody who can afford a 600hp anything doesn't accept that random red wiring or the massive dirtiness of the car. Most racing bodies probably wouldn't let it race.

Mason Rx7

Tear it down to absolutly nothing and rebuild it ground up. That's about your only option and doing it this way will prolly save you time.

Or...

Just give it to me. You won't be getting it back though.

lastphaseofthis

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first, do a compression test, hopefully the start is in it and work, do the poor mans comp test, put the battery in it and let it turn over with no spark plugs in it, listen for consistance wooshes of air, if any are galloping or missing, or it seemes slow, then your motors toast. if your motors good, search on how to check other peices (turbo play, coolant system, oil system).
i have put in a motor and all the peices to get it running in about 16 hours of work, 4 of which were making damn block plates(like 8), letting permitex dry.., and drving to the store for broken/missing/replacing bolts. i could do what you have to do as i hadnt labled anything and had all the bolts in about 4 or 5 diffrent bags unlabled also...
and that was my first time.
depending on how mechanically inclinded you are, i might would find someone for help, report back soon soldier!!!

also anyone else notice that oil filler neck is from an NA and its on a turbo engine that has been rebuilt, mazda doesnt paint them red you know.., fishy...

another note, the coolant neck is diffrent then my na or my turbo, its like its missing a part, and most likely the thermostat, yeah, http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/codes/mazda13BT.htm
buy one of those and stick it in there, i am scared too see anyone attemp that!

Brody8877

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by the looks of it, i doubt it would run.
you also get a jspec motor from
http://www.jspecautosports.com/catal...px?prod_id=168
also, tell him to forget about selling and just have him give it to you because your giving him free labor and it all adds. So mind as well give it to you. RX7 are great car if you know the car and know how to take care of it.

royaltrex7

personally if i had the time and money and it was my personal project i would go ahead pull the motor replace every external gasket and bolt on and just get a new wiring harness and radiator that would be a great setup for it if the motor tranny rear end suspension and driveshaft and halfshafts are in good condition but for free never unless like i said it was mine

DriftingB26RX7

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can we get better pics of both sides of the motor???? that motor has been rebuilt...the exhaust ports look bigger than stock no ???

lastphaseofthis

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jesus 1450 for a dam jspec gamble with no ******* warrenty? **** that backwards, the only reason i said osaka was for 650 bucks youd get many copy peices, incase the ones that come are bad or maybe the he has are bad, print these replys out and give them to him, let the choice of what to do be up to him...

royaltrex7

you know i think ive seen that motor on a website before if im not mistaken

drugblock12a

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Part that thing out. Save yourself a headache.

MaczPayne

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You'd need a miracle to get that car running again. If it's a mechanical problem, it may be straightforward to fix, but if its a wiring/electrical problem... good luck with that..

RylAssassin

First off that wiring harness looks like hell. I would start by telling him he needs to replace that. Then pull the motor out and start from scratch. The compression needs to be checked to see if the engine even has a chance to start. Then check the accessories you have lying around and see whats still good. If you can get most of that engine back together and get the wiring harness (not that easy to get of corse) then you might stand a better chance at getting this car running.
That is actually a nice project car, theres a lot of potential there but im thinking if your going to take on a project like that for someone else, id collect at least a good 500 bucks. I personally wouldent do it for less than a grand though.

rotorforce

Looks like that engine bay got hit with a scud missle! If money and time weren't an issue it could be pulled off.

88rxn/a

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sellll ittttt save yourself a huge headache!!

elnots

I've seen some projects in my time and I can tell you that the white T2 is a great project car.. if you've got about 3 months a strong budget and alot of free time.

Wankel7

Yikes, I wouldn't work on it with somebody else's tools.

That heap is worth about 200 bucks.

The question is...HOW did it end up like that? Somebody just wanted to see what wasn't bolted down?

James