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06-10-02, 09:06 AM
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I killed my TII.
I broke my TII Friday night messing around with a modded WRX. I managed to pretty much explode my T/O bearing AND spring a coolant leak out the back of my engine somewhere. I haven't decided if I am going to fix it or not (ever) but I know I can't fix it this summer...damn $20K/year education. So anyway, I have two questions. First, where are the possible places for a coolant leak that would **** down the front of the transmission? Second, what kind of damage can I do by driving it with a bad T/O bearing, other than grinding when putting it in gear? I'm not driving it now, but I eventually need to bring it somewhere other than my apartment parking lot.
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06-10-02, 09:52 AM
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Yeah, and when it breaks, you grind going into gears and the car lunges forward when the clutch is down and it's in gear....not a lot of fun.
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06-10-02, 10:10 AM
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I drove my car with bad t/o for about a month, and it was ok for me. Just a finger was broken off mine. If yours is as thrashed as you say, it would destroy the PP pretty quick I would imagine. Man, I hope you get it fixed!!
06-10-02, 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by rico05
I drove my car with bad t/o for about a month, and it was ok for me. Just a finger was broken off mine. If yours is as thrashed as you say, it would destroy the PP pretty quick I would imagine. Man, I hope you get it fixed!!
I drove my car with bad t/o for about a month, and it was ok for me. Just a finger was broken off mine. If yours is as thrashed as you say, it would destroy the PP pretty quick I would imagine. Man, I hope you get it fixed!!
06-10-02, 10:15 AM
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Sorry to hear about that. 
I would bet that your coolant leak is coming from that coolant hose that goes from the rear housing up into the underside of the Throttle body, and its the leaking fluid from there is running down into the bell housing.
Have you peeked around there with a flashlight and a mirror yet? If it is coming from there you will have to pull the upper intake manifold to fix it. Its not too bad, just takes a few hours if you haven't done it before.
As far as the throw-out bearing goes, fixing that isn't too horrible. The bearing is pretty cheap, but you will need a good set of jack stands, and a couple of strong friends to do the job. I replaced my clutch, bearing, and rear engine seal all by myself a couple of months ago, and it wasn't too bad. Getting the transmission to line up and go back on was the hardest part. But unless you are a 230lb moose like myself,
I wouldn't recommend doing it alone.
Good Luck.
I would bet that your coolant leak is coming from that coolant hose that goes from the rear housing up into the underside of the Throttle body, and its the leaking fluid from there is running down into the bell housing.
Have you peeked around there with a flashlight and a mirror yet? If it is coming from there you will have to pull the upper intake manifold to fix it. Its not too bad, just takes a few hours if you haven't done it before.
As far as the throw-out bearing goes, fixing that isn't too horrible. The bearing is pretty cheap, but you will need a good set of jack stands, and a couple of strong friends to do the job. I replaced my clutch, bearing, and rear engine seal all by myself a couple of months ago, and it wasn't too bad. Getting the transmission to line up and go back on was the hardest part. But unless you are a 230lb moose like myself,
I wouldn't recommend doing it alone.Good Luck.
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06-10-02, 10:19 AM
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I guess this means you won't be at the Tri-State Picnic on Sunday?
Honestly, it doesn't sound that bad. The water hose is probably the one below the intercoller that runs from the block to the throttle body. Simple fix here if this is the case. You'll have to look at it to be sure...
If you screwed up in the Tranny is a T/O bearing, you're only talking $30-40 bucks in parts + Labor. Once again, you won't know until you pull it apart.
Don't get discouraged! At least not until you know what work has to be done!
Honestly, it doesn't sound that bad. The water hose is probably the one below the intercoller that runs from the block to the throttle body. Simple fix here if this is the case. You'll have to look at it to be sure...
If you screwed up in the Tranny is a T/O bearing, you're only talking $30-40 bucks in parts + Labor. Once again, you won't know until you pull it apart.
Don't get discouraged! At least not until you know what work has to be done!
06-10-02, 10:54 AM
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I'll be at the BBQ on Sunday, but the car won't be. I have other stuff planned for the rest of the weekend, so I am flying out from IA.
I got under the car with a spotlight to look for the coolant leak but didn't think to grab a mirror. Maybe I'll get under there again, but I think my landlord will frown on me working on it in the parking lot.
I got under the car with a spotlight to look for the coolant leak but didn't think to grab a mirror. Maybe I'll get under there again, but I think my landlord will frown on me working on it in the parking lot.
06-10-02, 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by rico05
I drove my car with bad t/o for about a month, and it was ok for me. Just a finger was broken off mine. If yours is as thrashed as you say, it would destroy the PP pretty quick I would imagine. Man, I hope you get it fixed!!
I drove my car with bad t/o for about a month, and it was ok for me. Just a finger was broken off mine. If yours is as thrashed as you say, it would destroy the PP pretty quick I would imagine. Man, I hope you get it fixed!!
06-10-02, 11:06 AM
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it shouldn't be to bad just driving it to somewhere to work on it. you will need to try to match rpms though it will make your drive much easier. hope it works out well for ya, and thanks for the help on the attachments i think i got it down now.
06-10-02, 11:27 AM
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I am pretty good at rev matching...hell, I killed a GS-T on my way home from breaking my car. 
I just don't want to damage the input shaft on the tranny or anything like that.
I just don't want to damage the input shaft on the tranny or anything like that.
06-10-02, 11:33 AM
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I'm all for shifting the thing without the clutch. You just need the clutch to get the thing rolling from stop lights. After that forget about the clutch. Its a useful skill thats going to help you out during your time of distress.
06-10-02, 11:41 AM
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hmmm...
I had that same problem, coolant spewing out the back of the engine some where. There is one VERY small hose behind the intercooler, lower down, right behind what I would call the Top Intake Manifold Cover on the passanger side. It is a hose that you cannot even get to without taking that whole top intake manifold cover thingy off (have to remove intercooler too...yarg).
Easy to fix, but you need the right hose etc. etc.
Hope that sort of helps.
Easy to fix, but you need the right hose etc. etc.
Hope that sort of helps.
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06-10-02, 02:15 PM
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Sorry to hear about that.
I would bet that your coolant leak is coming from that coolant hose that goes from the rear housing up into the underside of the Throttle body, and its the leaking fluid from there is running down into the bell housing.
Sorry to hear about that.
I would bet that your coolant leak is coming from that coolant hose that goes from the rear housing up into the underside of the Throttle body, and its the leaking fluid from there is running down into the bell housing.
06-10-02, 02:43 PM
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There is a long six faced screw that sticks out from one of the bases where the engine mount goes I don't remember which side. That is the engine's coolant drain, if it came loose it might leak from there.
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06-10-02, 04:03 PM
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There is a long six faced screw that sticks out from one of the bases where the engine mount goes I don't remember which side. That is the engine's coolant drain, if it came loose it might leak from there.
There is a long six faced screw that sticks out from one of the bases where the engine mount goes I don't remember which side. That is the engine's coolant drain, if it came loose it might leak from there.
06-10-02, 04:36 PM
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This doesn't sound like a shattered T/O bearing. If it were, the release fork would be in direct contact with a few fingers and that won't be enough to disengage the clutch(imagine the fingers cuttin up the fork). Most likely the pilot busing went bad giving you harder shifts. In any event, you could have that fixed over the wkend for under $350 parts.
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06-10-02, 04:56 PM
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I am just going to store the car for a while until I have the money to fix it...I am in school right now and on a really tight budget. I might even sell some parts from it in the mean time.
I do have weekends free, though, so I'll probably be able to tear into it right away.
I do have weekends free, though, so I'll probably be able to tear into it right away.
06-11-02, 09:40 AM
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Good news for me...I found a place to store and work on my car (rotarydragon from nopistons.com is helping me out) so I should have it up and running again fairly soon.