BIZL

87 TII, running fine with no issues at all.

Had a shipment of shingles come yesterday and I had to move the car out of the way. Unfortunatly I didn't give it time to fully warm up before i shut it down which i now understand can lead to flooding.

I tried depressing the gas peddle while starting it and it still wont start.

I tried pulling the EGI fuse and turning it over a few times and then plugging it back in and starting it but it won't start.

I havent tried ATF yet cuz I don't have any and will have to go out and get some.

Can anyone share any advice?

farberio

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Don't do the ATF, and try push starting.

turbo10th

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Had this happen to me was stuck 2 hours at work because of it after trying almost everything i finally took all the spark plugs out cranked the car over untill there was no mist of gas coming out(take the fuse out while doing this) then cleaned the spark plugs with a wire brush and some carb cleaner put them back in and it started. Hope this helps.

BIZL

thx i'll try it.

Rotary_MD

I'd try the EGI fuse 'trick' again but crank it for a couple of minutes at least. I've had a couple of floods in my RX7 over the years - and the trick has worked each time - with a lot of cranking.

BIZL

I just read in another thread that cranking for that long will kill the starter...

turbo10th

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Even pulling the fuse and cranking it forever will not always work. I even killed my battery that day trying and it was red top. When it is that flooded not even atf would work tried that and it is not a good idea to use it but was trying anything. There was just too much gas in the chambers and it was fouling out the plugs. The quickest way and the most effectrive is to take the plugs out crank it untill all the gas is out or you see no mist then clean the plugs to get all the gas out and the carbon that is probably already on there and then put them in and start it. If it doesnt start you have other issues. Always check to see if you have fuel and spark.

pfsantos

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Pull out EGI fuse, spark plugs. Crank engine 15 seconds, pour in teaspoon of oil or ATF. Clean spark plugs with compressed air, or dry them with a hair dryer. Put in spark plugs. Install EGI fuse. Crank.

This is the general de-flooding procedure when pulling the fuse trick alone doesn't do it.

farberio

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Just give the starter a breather every 20 seconds or so and it will be fine for extended use like that.

BIZL

ok gotta give it a shot.

texFCturboII

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Don't do the ATF trick.... it can ruin seals. DO NOT depress the gas pedal when starting, this is absolutley unnecessary in a fuel injected car. Just pull the EFI fuse, crank away for a little bit, replace and start her up!

BIZL

ok here is the deal. I tried pulling the plugs and cranking it and waiting for the mist to stop coming out of the spark plug holes but it doesn't seem to stop misting... how long should it take?

I'm also thinking that perhaps I pulled the wrong fuse. There are 2 fuses that say EGI on them EGI comp and EGI inj i think which one is it?

texFCturboII

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EGI inj. it won't stop misting until that is out.

toastiepenguin

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It is the EGI Injector fuse obviously. Crank the motor without the EGI fuse and spark plugs until nothing is coming out of the spark plug holes. If you see "mist" coming out of the motor than you either have an "internal leak" or you have failed to disable the fuel system.

-Jon

micah

2Cycle oil > ATF ATF is teh suck.

http://www.rotorwiki.com/index.php/Flooding

TurboMazdaSpeed

same thing happend to me at work last week (i suspect its because of leaky injectors) but i tryed the EGI fuse thing a few times it didnt work, i ended up calling a tow truck, by the time he got there the engine was ice cold (figures) and it fired up haha.. just wait till its cold leave it for a few hours then it should start

micah

If he's flooded, this won't work. Leaky injectors would continue to leak as it got cold...

Hot start problems, if I recall correctly (Never had them), are caused by poor compression.

veedubbed

Pull the EGI fuse, floor it, and crank it over for a minute. Put the fuse back in, hold the throttle open say 10% and start it. Works for me everytime when it floods.

xUnKnOwNx

cranking it for so long will kill the starter and the battery, or so ive heard so i only doit for about 15-20 seconds.

i have hot start issues myself but i really do hope its my injectors and not because of my engine having low compression because i just had it rebuilt(about 1300 miles) but some old parts were used.

texFCturboII

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rebuilt motors can take time to build compression.

micah

Yes.. but after 1300 miles, it should be more than broken in...

BIZL

ok i got her started... holy **** what a pain.
I had to boost the car while cranking it cuz the battery was almost dead.
I had to pull the plugs and crank it to get rid of the gas in the chambers.
I had to clean my plugs all up and put oil in the chambers.
Then i cranked it and she started right up!

yay... i hope she keeps starting.

Thx for all your help guys!