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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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i had Heated debate on my car with a friend

to make a long story short. Im am doing everything possible to my car to make it run high 11's to low 12's with no N20 or any type of boost. and my buddy that has a gxl sais it is physicaly impossible. but i got some of the best rotary guys working on my car that i know of and they say it wont be a problem. and another thing is money is not a factor. please no flaming only serious thoughts.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Well your gonna have to open that thing up. I havnt seen an NA on this forum that was streetable break 13
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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how much money do you have?

oh and it wont be streetable
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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completly open exhaust full bridge or p-prort?

3rotor n/a with some heavy porting?
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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in an fc..maybe not...try a half bridge in a 1st gen then maybe yea...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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chuck a badass fuel injected pp in there
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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i agree w/ the na 20B, and I think you can even NA the 787 engine...If that floats your boat.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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i thought the 787 engine is NA?
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CrackHeadMel
completly open exhaust full bridge or p-prort?

3rotor n/a with some heavy porting?
Yes, porting but will cost alot of money.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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im good friends with the guy and he cuts me hella deals. and im going with a p-port for damn sure. fd intake big injectors etc... but from the way it sounds its very possible
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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So if money isnt a factor offer mazda 1,000,000,000,000$ for one of the rb26's, drop it in and done deal.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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3 rotor PP.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7b13
to make a long story short. Im am doing everything possible to my car to make it run high 11's to low 12's with no N20 or any type of boost. and my buddy that has a gxl sais it is physicaly impossible. but i got some of the best rotary guys working on my car that i know of and they say it wont be a problem. and another thing is money is not a factor. please no flaming only serious thoughts.
Just curious... What's your motivation? I don't want to knock you for setting goals etc., but really? An 11 second, 2-rotor N/A FC is quite a stretch. Obviously, you know this--but what's your point?

Whatever CRAZY motor you throw in there will be very expensive, not be streetable at ALL and likely won't last very long. This will in essence put you into an expensive cycle of rebuilds. If you don't have top-notch, rotary specific building skills and tuning skills--it's REALLY not worth it. You already stressed that your comfortably rich, but this motor won't be a one-time thing... Also, unless you have a specific "race class" goal or someting, you really need to check that whatever build you decide to go with will be legal.

If you're going to build a potentially $10k+++ N/A FC, it would be silly to have it be a weekend drag-strip/track-car that you won't be able to enjoy on the street. Not to mention each rebuild will cost you, what? $2k+?
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7b13
im good friends with the guy and he cuts me hella deals. and im going with a p-port for damn sure. fd intake big injectors etc... but from the way it sounds its very possible

PPort with FD intake, hmmmm.... Do you even understand what a PPort is? Do you understand what you're getting yourself into? Have you thought any of this through at ALL?

Sounds like a waste of money on a stupid bet.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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PPort with FD intake, hmmmm.... Do you even understand what a PPort is? Do you understand what you're getting yourself into? Have you thought any of this through at ALL?

Sounds like a waste of money on a stupid bet.
come on dDuB people do P ports on stock intakes all the time
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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4 rotor PP.
Now that's just ludicrous.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by snowball
come on dDuB people do P ports on stock intakes all the time
Is that the cool new thing to do? Damn I must be behind the times.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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20b?
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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My NA FC is a streetable 11 second car with a stock motor. Isn't a rotary though.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by snowball
come on dDuB people do P ports on stock intakes all the time
im not talking about p porting the intake. i meant to say im going to go with an fd intake and use p-port the engine. sorry if i caused dome confusion and i was just wondering if it was possible thats all.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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no dude, you need individual t-bodies for p-port. even if you could get an FD intake to work, wouldnt it just restrict the flow? but i dont see how you could get it to work.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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so your going to run semi-pport's?

how much $ do you have?
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7b13
im not talking about p porting the intake. i meant to say im going to go with an fd intake and use p-port the engine. sorry if i caused dome confusion and i was just wondering if it was possible thats all.
My questions still stand.

Do you even understand what a PPort is? Do you understand what you're getting yourself into?

Maybe crackhead is right, are you doing SEMI-pport? Still don't think a stock intake would work so great anyways, plus the LIM would have to be custom but you could in theory still use the UIM.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7b13
im not talking about p porting the intake. i meant to say im going to go with an fd intake and use p-port the engine. sorry if i caused dome confusion and i was just wondering if it was possible thats all.

Im not flaming you, just please go research a periferral(spelling) port before you post in this thread again.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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If you P-port the engine, you have to have a special intake like this: http://racingbeat.com/resultset.asp?PartNumber=16490
No intake for a street car will work since the intake ports are in a totally different place. As Ddub said, you need to do more research on peripheral porting.
Also, aren't all 26b's are peripheral ported.
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