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Old 01-23-05, 07:10 PM
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How much torque with 320-350rwhp?

I was looking at ACT clutches and they all say good to such and such torque. I am taking a wishful guess that I have 320-350rwhp. I am running a BNR stage 3 so I dunno. So what torque do you think I would be around?
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260-300. Just a guess.
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Originally Posted by RotaryWeaponSE7EN
260-300. Just a guess.
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Its nice to know that members would rather point out the idiot than be mature and correct him... but ya whatever.
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Idiot....damn thats a pretty good guestimate if aviator agrees.
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Be careful with the reference...
If I had to guess, it would be more like 240 - 280 lb-ft, but that's referenced at the rear wheels.
The clutch don't care about the rear wheels, but it would be most interested at the brake torque at the flywheel.
260 - 300 brake lb-ft the flywheel would be right about 240 - 280 lb-ft at the rear wheels.


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I really think he was being rather sarcastic.

Torque = HP*5252 / RPM

X = 280*5252 / 5000

294ftlbs

Meh, that sounds high
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350rwhp here
290tq
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I'm with stupid is just agreeing to what the last person said. Not literally calling him stupid. usmcjsy how does your car run? That is going to be my exact mods when my bnr stage III comes in. Is your car tuned yet?? Have you found the 4x720 combo to be sufficient with the 60-1? THanks.

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Originally Posted by RETed
Be careful with the reference...
If I had to guess, it would be more like 240 - 280 lb-ft, but that's referenced at the rear wheels.
The clutch don't care about the rear wheels, but it would be most interested at the brake torque at the flywheel.
260 - 300 brake lb-ft the flywheel would be right about 240 - 280 lb-ft at the rear wheels.


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Well ted u put it in the same range. And I did say guess.
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
LOL, that's an agreement. Yes, it is just a guess, as stated by RotaryWeaponSE7EN, as there are way too many variables involved.

Originally Posted by RotaryWeaponSE7EN
Well ted u put it in the same range. And I did say guess.
Yes, the clutch torque is based at the flywheel, which means that there are now 3 guesses at the 260-300 range.

Originally Posted by Wankel7
I really think he was being rather sarcastic.

Torque = HP*5252 / RPM

X = 280*5252 / 5000

294ftlbs

Meh, that sounds high
If you want to be really safe, then just get a clutch rated for more torque than you think you will have.

Here is a graph of BNR kits on FD's. (Sorry, no FC's available).
http://www.catenet.net/graph.php?car...1&SUBMIT=GRAPH
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Ok thanks guys I appreciate the input I think I can get away with a street disc and the extreme pressure plate as that is suppose to be good for 400 and some odd ft lbs.

Hondahater I do not believe I am dialed in 100% but I would think pretty close. I am buying a wideband before next summer so I can dial it in a little tighter. I have not had it on a dyno or anything. I can tell you this though it is a whole new car. The car with the amount of power it now has is extremly fun to drive. I am now lookignat what clutch to buy as I had a CenterforceII it worked fine until I did the upgrades. Then it would slip 1/2 the time going into 2nd and somtimes on launch. I did the FMIC, injectors, BOV and turbo all at the same time. I would say stay right around 10psi on pump gas and retard the timing 3 degrees. I was getting detonation on 92 octane between 13 and 15psi. I am also looking at upgrading my ignition. I was running 20 psi ( according to my auto meter boost gauge) and never had any problems on the pump gas. Anyway I think the BNR stage3 is great especially for the money and ease of a direct bolt on. If you have any other ?s feel free to PM me. Thanks again guys for the help with the tq ft lbs.
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Hybrid running at 20psi?


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is there something wrong with that? Not being sarcastic just wondering what would be wrong with that. I ran 20 for a couple of days on my stage1 and man did the car fly!
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If the hybrid is still using the stock carbon seal, I'm surprised it hasn't died yet.


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Originally Posted by RETed
If the hybrid is still using the stock carbon seal, I'm surprised it hasn't died yet. -Ted



HAHAHAHAHA! Sorry, Ted. I just couldn't resist.
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I think bnr replaces that seal. correct me if I'm wrong but thats why he puts the 360* thrust bearing in the turbo for people that ask for it because they are going to be going above 15psi if they are going above that than obviously his turboes are made for it.

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Originally Posted by hondahater
I think bnr replaces that seal. correct me if I'm wrong but thats why he puts the 360* thrust bearing in the turbo for people that ask for it because they are going to be going above 15psi if they are going above that than obviously his turboes are made for it.
You're right.
I believe there is a dynamic seal retrofit on one of the levels, but I don't think it's the Stage III one?
It might be the Stage IV one?

The 360-degree thrust bearing has nothing to do with the carbon / dynamic seal.


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