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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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How much should I offer for this?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/732761034.html

I talked to the guy, said the car didn't use any oil at all. And that the water just leaks out, apparently he has been using pure water for cooling.

How much should I try to pitch his way?
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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well if the car is ok inside and all, 750 aint that bad. as soon as you get it, pull the thermostat out, maybe stuck, or waterpump screwed up.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Already talked wit hthe guy, I think we got a good deal going. Working out finances right now.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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i'd say that i agree with nyc scorpio. if the rest of the car other than the engine is in alright shape, $750 isnt too bad of a price. i would say look at it as if the engine has lost a coolant seal. when you get it home, plan for the worst but do go through the entire cooling system, testing each component.
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MZFE
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/732761034.html

I talked to the guy, said the car didn't use any oil at all. And that the water just leaks out, apparently he has been using pure water for cooling.

How much should I try to pitch his way?
..if the guy said the car uses NO oil..he is full of Crap!..a Rotary Engine uses a Quart of Oil for every 3,000 Miles.it is Supposed to.That's how the internals get Lubed.(that is IF the OMP is working)..If he Did not notice any Oil Being Used,he either didn't have it Long enough to Know Or Didn't Care if the engine had oil in it,the engine had a Blocked off Oil metering Pump,or he is Flat out Lying to ya...Water Pouring out?:I wouldn't Touch it..unless you want a Project car..I mean Really!,Why Buy a Car if you can't Drive it!..But,that's just My .02..and it's your Cash..so Honestly,buy what ever you want.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Go to www.aaroncake.net and find the cooling system diagnostics. The #1 thing to check is the coolant seals. If those are toast then the engine is toast and requires a $3,000 rebuild. Don't buy a piece of garbage unless you know what you're getting into. If you can't afford a good car, then why spend more than twice as much fixing a piece of garbage?

Btw, pure water will rust the engine and damage the coolant seals over time. If it's tap water and he keeps refilling it, sediment will build up.

There are also links to buyer's guides in the forum FAQ so you can check for other things.

Ya, the comment he made about oil is B.S., maybe a selling point. Rotary engines have a friggin' pump to inject oil into the engine to lube it. It better be consuming oil! Either he's screwing with you or the Oil Metering Pump is broken but then the engine would have other problems like poor compression or eventually a total engine failure.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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It's possible to have enough fuel blowing by into the oil that it seems like it doesn't go down much.

Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Why Buy a Car if you can't Drive it!
You do realize you're in a forum for 20 y/o rotary mazdas, right? An attitude like this really narrows the playing field. Personally, I love a good project. It's how both of my 7's started out.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
..if the guy said the car uses NO oil..he is full of Crap!
Originally Posted by ericgrau
Btw, pure water will rust the engine and damage the coolant seals over time. If it's tap water and he keeps refilling it, sediment will build up.
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Ditto what they said.

That engine is probably junk, and the seller is either a liar or a moron. IMO $750 is too much, and it will probably take well over $3,000 to get that car up to par. As long as you realize that, then you can make an offer accordingly.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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maybe theres no oil in the motor thats y it doesnt use oil
~~~~~~ $500 tops!!
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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take it and make a project out of it, dude. looks pretty clean. aren't you planning on doing a N/A->TII swap anyway?
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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ignore the debbie downers. it's an old RX-7. you're going to get it, and the guy is going to have left out a lot of details about what things work and not. but that's the fun in it.. honestly (IMO), if it's not a DD and is going to be a project, the worse the better, because that means you'll be putting more new/refurbished/aftermarket parts in. you have an entire forum's worth of knowledge to work with, if you use it and are as detailed and **** about the car as you are your 3D models () you'll be in business. start your offer at $500 based on what people here have said, and go up from there.. if he wants more than $750, tell him you can find a better deal elsewhere.
just my .02$
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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Got him pinned at $200, already got the trailer lined up - and money in hand. Getting it this week! Thanks guys.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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200 is a good deal. You could sell 5 parts on that and get your money back.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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$200 is not only a good deal but a steal. As long as the body and interior is not trashed, it wouldn't matter if their were even a motor in it.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 7 n 7
$200 is not only a good deal but a steal. As long as the body and interior is not trashed, it wouldn't matter if their were even a motor in it.
+1 a decent s5 shell with no motor would be worth at least $600. if the interior was black, even more. the seller is getting raped at $200
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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an extremely good deal since junk motors still manage to go for $350 on here!
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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I'm just incredibly happy. The RX-7 is my dream car and now I find one for cheap.

I can't wait to get it, fix it up, learn all I can about it.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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now you need to take a bunch of the before pictures, while under construction, and then the beast in effect pictures
yes sir-e @ $200.00 you got a deal. I'll give you @201.00 jajajaja
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Bad news, while I was waiting to get free days off work and a trailer lined up, he sold it to someone local I believe.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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lol know how that feels, guy in wenatchee wanted to sell me his 10th ae, sold it before i could get there :O.

Ended up buying from some dude down in cali. Oh well, hopefully next one you find is in a more drivable condition =)
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Thanks, btw love your signature. hahahaha
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MZFE
Bad news, while I was waiting to get free days off work and a trailer lined up, he sold it to someone local I believe.
What a duchebag. oh well, maybe the ****** will explode lol.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I wouldn't have tried to fix it up anyway, unless you wanted a project for the sake of having a project or to save an RX-7 out of charity (bless your heart). It probably would have cost more to fix than getting a good one. Or I'd give the car a thorough looking at; if you're lucky it might only have small problems. And for such a low price it was worth it even if it wasn't worth fixing and you had to strip it down for parts.

Oh well, next time.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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I want one in any condition, I love the engine, love the body, love the flaws. It all attracts me to the 7.

Thanks for all your support, and I hope to find one soon.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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I agree with ericgrau. It most likely would have cost you more money to get that piece of junk in running condition than it would have cost to simply buy a running RX-7. It is much better to buy a running RX-7 because: 1) You can drive it while working on it, and 2) You can better assess the condition of the car prior to buying it.
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