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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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how much for a periphral port?

who can do a good perif port? and how much if i send you just two housings??

looking to have it done in the future hear.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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Do you understand there is more than just the porting? Youre going to need a custom intake manifold...
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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and throttle bodies....here come some ITB's.....YAYYYYYY!
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyTurboII
Do you understand there is more than just the porting? Youre going to need a custom intake manifold...

that's the catch, of course there are those who are fully capable of taking on such easy tasks, the construction of a manifold that is.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Do you understand there is more than just the porting? Youre going to need a custom intake manifold...
...and a race car.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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those who can make their own manifold usually can do their own PP. a PP is not much of a daily driver sort of motor unless you like driving either at idle(1500+RPMS) or WOT.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Most machine shops will do it for about $300 per housing. Some charge less, some charge more.

Making the housings is easy with a steady hand and a quality hole-saw (I've done it). Ideally you'll rig up a fixture to hold the housing at an appropriate angle in a drill press. Ccut a big chunk of steel at the right angle on the bottom, use the dowel holes to secure the housing to it and clamp the hole mess to the drill press and go slowly with lots of lube (coolant works well). Drill a pilot hole first and then replace the bit in the hole saw with the same size dowel (thanks to Scalliwag for that idea) to prevent walking.

Now press fit in your tubing and epoxy in place. Then finish the inner side of the housing with a die grinder...

And then you can start making the intake...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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what size hole about a 2 inch?

and PP arent bad to drive around, there's alot of **** about that. But a friend of mine has a PP and he drives the car to work everyday. I driven it before. Also has a 4 puck unsprung... thats the nasty part of driving the car...

Also looking to boost it lol, if that helps the situation any.. =D

The manifolds and TB I can handle, but I'm kinda edgey when it comes to cutting a 2 inch hole in my engine..
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Also what EXACTLY would you use to fill in the stock ports? Maybe a link or a searchable name? A brand even.

*back to the touchey engine work mood*
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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PP motor is not really streetable.
Sure, you CAN street such an engine, but you're severely restricting it's potential.
For the PP motor to make it's most efficient power, the exhaust has to be WIDE OPEN.
This implies the exhaust is going to make your ears bleed.
This implies it's highly illegal just by the sheer decibel output.
Don't do it.


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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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thank you much
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
PP motor is not really streetable.
Sure, you CAN street such an engine, but you're severely restricting it's potential.
For the PP motor to make it's most efficient power, the exhaust has to be WIDE OPEN.
This implies the exhaust is going to make your ears bleed.
This implies it's highly illegal just by the sheer decibel output.
Don't do it.


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Ever hear of boost activated exhaust cutouts?

maybe a few psi before full boost the exhaust turns into a downpipe.

open wastegates need to step aside.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by First gen man
what size hole about a 2 inch?
and PP arent bad to drive around, there's alot of **** about that. But a friend of mine has a PP and he drives the car to work everyday. I driven it before. Also has a 4 puck unsprung... thats the nasty part of driving the car...
Also looking to boost it lol, if that helps the situation any.. =D
The manifolds and TB I can handle, but I'm kinda edgey when it comes to cutting a 2 inch hole in my engine..
The size of your hole depends on how much power you want to make, where you want to make it, etc. Generally smaller ports are better for street but limit power (especially down low). Larger ports give you that screaming top end but mean lots of overlap and thus issues with low RPM and starting.

Check out Scalliwag's thread in the Rotary Performance section for a very good overview of the process. It's about many pages long, so sit back and pour a drink first...

As for putty, JB-Weld works but Devcon is so much better. I used JB-Weld in my test piece, my final ports will have Devcon.

Don't worry about killing the housings...Good used housings are cheap.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by First gen man
Ever hear of boost activated exhaust cutouts?

maybe a few psi before full boost the exhaust turns into a downpipe.

open wastegates need to step aside.
So you're talking turbo PP?
Then that's a whole different matter...

Don't argue with me about the excessively loud exhaust - argue with the cop that pulls you over for it.


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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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those who can make their own manifold usually can do their own PP. a PP is not much of a daily driver sort of motor unless you like driving either at idle(1500+RPMS) or WOT.
that settels it, i need a PP motor in my DD then....
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
So you're talking turbo PP?
Then that's a whole different matter...

Don't argue with me about the excessively loud exhaust - argue with the cop that pulls you over for it.


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Well the only time it'll be loud, will be when I'm under some boost.

It should be alright..

cops around hear are more freaked out by overlap more than pissed off by how loud it is anyways.

all redneck crackers freaking out when an engine does that.

dumbasses. lol
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Wait...You're going turbo PP? Are you looking to make 800 HP?

Turbo is a whole other world when discussion peripheral ports. Putting any reasonably sized turbocharger on a PP will just choke the engine. You need a WIDE OPEN exhaust side and a big compressor to match...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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I understand that.

I'm looking to run a decent size compressor with a big *** turbine housing. i dont want a snail of a turbo, something with some spool in it. Also thought about running twin's..

but thats another discussion like you said.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Street car =D
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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It's ridiculous to discuss. If you can do it, you would not be asking.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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im just stuck up about the acuall port lol.. i got it now though. i wouldnt think a hole saw would be a clean enough cut though. i believe it though. whatever the holesaw doesnt get the die grinder will.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by First gen man
Well the only time it'll be loud, will be when I'm under some boost.
I guess you've never actually seen or heard a PP in real life. If you had you'd realise how silly that statement was. Aaron's right, you're way outta your league...
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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A riff motor is loud. Not a loud that you seem to understand. Like you might not be able to have kids after driving it around for a while. Or standing near it while it runs. A riff is comparably loud to a funny car. I'd recommend foam ear plugs and shooting ear muffs. Upon muffling, the motor loses so much power it's ridiculous. And if you turbo it, well, good luck man.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
I guess you've never actually seen or heard a PP in real life. If you had you'd realise how silly that statement was. Aaron's right, you're way outta your league...
I had my exhaust off while doing a transmission change.

>>> Stock 86 N/A <<<

It was pretty deafening. Good luck with your PP...
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