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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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How many of you started out N/A?

So I was just wondering how many people in the Rx-7 community started off with a N/A FC as their first FC or if they just jumped right in to the TII. Some may say it's stupid but I'm just curious.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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I got an NA. It's cheaper, and it teaches you what not to do with a rotary. That way you can screw up a 3000 dollar car, you'll mess up a 1500 dollar car! That's what mine was for, essentially :p
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I looked for a T2 forever but just went with an N/A...

In the us, they made like 5-10 times as many NA's as they did turbo FCs.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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yup, my car was an n/a s5, drove it that way for five years, learned from it and then swapped in a j-spec S5 TII motor
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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NA->TII. NA was $800, TII was $4500.

NA slow, but fun. TII faster and more fun.

NA cheap to maintain, TII more expensive to maintain.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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So at a younger age getting an N/A and learning then swapping a TII would be the best idea?
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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86 Sport $500 --> TII $9000 net invested --> Free 87 SE

I still own em all.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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i'm still NA
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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does the one sitting in my yard count!?
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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My first (and only so far) is a 88 TII in great condition. I didn't want to go the NA route. I was about to though when I found my car. I really don't see what the big deal is about starting out with a NA to get used to it. I guess a lot of people can't handle a turbo immediately? Maybe it's the cost. They are a little spendy...
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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I started out NA and still have the same car after 9 years. Start out with what you want and can afford. Easier to have what you want to have than to swap a motor and drivetrain and sundry other bits later. More power never hurts (ie, turbo), except that if the car is going to be your daily driver, you might find the fuel costs painful - not that NA's are going to be confused with a Prius at the pump.

I wouldn't mind more power, but an NA in GXL or Sport trim will handle and brake just as well as a TII, if not slightly better (generally lighter). And the thought of all the bother of swapping a TII motor and drivetrain to get even poorer mileage and less acceleration than a new Mustang GT (which gets better mileage than an NA also) kinda helps put it in perspective. Plus my NA has been dead reliable despite being bagged hard with lots of autocrossing and track days ever since I got it.

Still, more power is a good thing - although if you're an inexperienced driver, I would urge caution: like any other powerful car, you need to learn the car's and your own limits.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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i was n/a. now its faster.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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TurboII when i turned 18 i got my first car(rx7) only got it for 2000.and after 3yrs and 3 motor i still got it to this day. ))))
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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I learned to drive stick in a 90 corolla. Slow as hell, couldn't handle and took abuse like a champ.

Moved on to an S4 NA

then to an S5 NA

Then to S5 TII DD (back in the day when gas was 1.50/gal. I miss those days.)

Now I have another S5 NA DD and an S5 NA with full TII swap weekend warrior (under construction).

Was it better to go NA THEN TII? I don't think it makes a difference. It all depends on the maturity, common sense of the driver and whether or not they can afford an RX-7 ( either by working your *** off or having mommy and daddy pay for everything).
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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yea thats true tho a TII is alot more expensive after you so many upgrades.i use my for daily driving also got a/c in it so the gas is killer.

im glad i pay for everything on my car more responsible
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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...Black '87 GXL>'.....Blue'86 GXL.....and now anBlack '88 GXL

NA and staying that way....
TURBO like putting NOS in a Honda
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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^^^^ that's the stupidest thing I've read today!

thanks.

DD a TII for a couple of years and then come back and post whether or not you feel the same way.

I hate it when NA guys talk **** about the TIIs and I hate it when TII guys talk **** about the NA. Unless you've owned both you can't talk **** about one or the other. Stick with what you know and leave the smack talking for those that know what they're talking about.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Started out with a 87 GXL then moved to a 93 Touring. I'm not going back to N/A unless it's a 3 rotor.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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My first Sports-car Was a 88 RX-7 GX, Which i liked, but it just wasnt fast enough.So the i went and traded a truck I had at the time for a 87 T2 which is alot more fun and still is not satisfying my need for speed. This sept. shes getting parked and receiving some more motor mods and a little body work.
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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n/a all the way..better that way.

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Went through a pair of CRX's before jumping straight into a Turbo II.
In fact, I still own this FC turbo.
I've gone through two other FC turbos...
Never owned a non-turbo.


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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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i knew that some butthurt Turbo owner would take that toooooooooooooo seriously!


it was a joke.....im glad u got a laugh out of it!!!

BTW.,...whats an NA Turbo???...another oXYMoROn
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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the n/a rx7 was my very first car
i got a few turbo later on
now i am going back to n/a
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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^^ rofl thats a big leap.... but n/a for me(16) but i gots 2 cars!!! rx7 and a honda baby!!! (rx7 is gonna be my track drifter!!!)

EDIT: that was too um...ledgebmx, but like 100 ppl posted before me lol
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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So here's my intentions:

I figured i'd buy an N/A to educate myself with the engine and the car itself and then sometime next year to a TII swap into it. Is it worth the money to even buy an N/A when I will just be swapping out the engine in a year? And just for reassurance does it really cost ~3500 to swap a TII engine into an N/A? Is it worth the hassle to find the TII engine? Or would I just be better off buying a TII?

Keep in mind this will be my DD, speed isn't really everything but I would atleast like the car to be quick.
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