Rotary-Revolution

Does anyone have a Dyno sheet using N2O?

scathcart

Ummm, I HAVE forced induction. Its called a turbocharger.

As well, Nitrous Oxide is a form of forced induction.

scathcart

Then you've obviously never been in a Turbo car with turbo lag.

Besides, nitrous is cheap, and it makes rediculous power. I don't see how that is gay...

Node

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Most rotaries w/ noticeable amounts of turbo lag and nitrous are professionally built dragsters.
I haven't seen too many daily driven RX's that have big enough turbos and nitrous

Node

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do you guys like NX? or Zex (i saw someone posting about liking zex)

Also, what about venom, looks nice and hightech, but looks realy expensive. Zex's smart system reminds me of venom

Node

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bah, turbos have almost infinite power potential.
For what a wet turbo system costs (would you risk dry on a turbo rotary?) you could get a nice upgrade for your turbo system.
Like an NPR intercooler and piping, or a hybrid turbo, or half of a haltech.

NOS FC3S

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In reply to the Venom kits they are in the same range as ZEX or NX, and way better. For bang for buck go NOS. Turbo is nice but expensive. These TII guy's saying NOS is gay probbally can't even put 200 WHP down.As its already been said I don't think you will gain anything by going wet as your taking fuel flow away from your injectors to shoot it into your intake elbow. So it really dosen't gain you anything without a regulator and H/F pump. Try a 50 I guarantee you will never regret it. Besides there's nothin like getting guys race you thinkin "Ah its a non turbo" then you smoke him by 5 legnths. 50 shot on an N/A got me easy 14's the 75 I'll keep you posted. Haven't had it at the track this year with that shot yet. Downpipe starting to clog up. Worried of overheatin.

scathcart

you won't get 250 hp out of an intercooler.

ka8legend

I thought N2O and turbo go together like wine & cheese. So would the cooling effect of using n2o being the same or better than an upgraded FMIC?

Sonic

Personally, I'd say run N20 only after you have all the bolt ons and upgraded fuel system and FMIC. Then if you need more power add the juice.

That's just my thinking though.

Randon 61

what shot are you turbo guys running and what upgrades do you have?

poor_red_neck

Wait... Wait... a 50 shot got you 14? Like... Low 14s? Any more specifics?

I've been considering going with a SMALL shot (no more than 75) running it dry...


SINCE THIS THREAD IS HERE:

I have an Apexi S-AFC II
I'm going to upgrade injectors anyways... so I figure I might give this nitrous thing a shot. I just hope I can find a bottle that will fit insinde my cubby bins or something, I REALLY dont want a bottle sticking out all in the open... don't want the "fame"

My question. Since I want to run a dry system (i know wet is better, but according to 1300cc.com's info..wet is not needed for something this small) I might need to richen it up a bit for WHEN I go on da juice...

Is there a way for the AFC to compensate for this?

I have yet to tune the AFC for this reason...
Im not even sure if this is a feature.
Have 2 different settings on the AFC. One for "normal" the other for "racing". Basicly under "racing" I have it set a bit rich to compensate for the nitrous. This way when I'm not planning on using it, it can stay 'tuned' to perfect with the AFC.

Is this possible?

-Jon

TwEaK

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you probly go up to somebody and say..umm escuse me mister, but what size jets are you using with your nitrous oxide system in your vehicle [/B][/QUOTE]

i think thats whatd id say... and i know a hell of alot about cars nitrous turbos superchargers have been working with cars for about 6 years since i was 10 and i think that sounds like the "smarter" thing to say then be like hey mr my name is Mr jackass and ummm how much NOS you runnin say that to Chevy peeps and they laugh at your face say that to some ricers and they go with the flow....
TwEaK

JunpoweR

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OK NITROUS OXIDE ROCKS!!!!

No matter what car i have been in with NOS it ROCKS!! lol
Litteraly even a honda civic DX hatch back 89 with 100 shot of NOS would pull on a stock NA FC withou it.

Just make sure you tune it properly..
yea a 50 shot shouldnt be too much for the stock fuelsystem to handle mabey just a SAFC2 can help you richen the mixture for that..
But anything over a 50 shot, I would go with a WET system Or just keep the dry system and use upgraded secondary injectors like 720cc and richen it up.make sure u have a wideband o2 sensor and a EGT to watch those exhaust temps.Don;t wanna lean out while u Tune it..Don't forget upgraded fuel pumps new rising pressure regulators and shabang..ect.
also anything over a 150 shot i would go with direct porting of the NOS injectors to ensure even mixture of
No2 to each rotor and mabey additional injectors then take care of the specifics\Fine tuning and your'e set.. =)

scathcart

No need. The FMU of the dry system will enrich fuel for you.
That's the reason why they are so easy to install (and suck for tunability).
Short of a standalone which can take a recognized input signal from the nitrous system and alter the fuel maps based on tuning for it, you're stuck with the FMU.

Don't run dry. Trust me.

scathcart

30 shot or lower for stock turbo, no matter what size the wastegate is ported. Anything more is askign for boost creep (and a blown engine if you're not ready for it.)

scathcart

A joke is only funny the first time you hear it. It was good the first time, but now tis just retarded. If you haven't got anything worthwhile to post, why bother parroting the tried and tired jokes of others?

The argument of calling it nitrous has been done. Those who have any clue accept NOS as the accepted term for all forms of nitrous oxide injection, just as we accept kleenux as the name for all brands of facial tissue. The only people who mention this point are those looking for controversy or those who are so worried about their own self image that they will do anything to keep themselves from being linked to a three-year old movie. Those who are controversial for the sake of it are just flat out annoying, and the latter must have some deep down concerns with self esteem.
Which are you?

scathcart

Another sign of fantastic maturity.
Congratulations on bringing uselessness and bigot slurs to this thread.
I am impressed with your character.

Aaron Cake

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Unless you actually contribute to a thread, feel free to NOT POST. Consider this a warning. Further violations will result in more severe action.

Thanks.

Aaron Cake

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Thread cleaned up. GROW UP PEOPLE.

gerbraldy

Strainght up man, don't use nitrous. Go all engine or throw a Turbo, most people despise Turbo's cause the lag, but when you think about it, you drag racing, drop the clutch at 7k, no lag. I never knew my na could take off as fast as I did last night, My clutch is slippin so I never dropped my clutch, but last night I drop at about 3k, and it put me back in the seat.

turboii87rx7

i heard that the zex kit has a setting you can do so taht it will kick in only until your turbo spools up to help against any lag... is this true? is it worth it at all?

87na

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Maybe your thinking of a proggressive system, but i dunno. I run a 100 hp shot in my n/a thanks to a NOS system i picked up from my bro for 200 bucks and im on my 11th bottle with no problems, cept for the clutch starting to slip recently.And its pretty quick

Rx7MPGUY84

I have purchased a pre spool nitrous injection kit, and im using 50 shot Nitrous oxide system. I dont get any turbo lag. For all you newbies like me, pre spool nitrous injection kits can be bought on ebay. they inject nitrous oxide into your motor when your throttle is pushed in all the way. when your turbo spools to a certain lb/2in it will kick off. thus the heat of a hotter burn that no2 gets will push more exhaust out causing faster spool. its such a small quick shot, it really wont have much effect on your motor. heres a site i found from europe. its a no2 study for cars.
http://www.diy-nitrous.fsnet.co.uk/

DelSlow

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im not a big fan of nitrous, but a friend of mine might give me a really good deal on a ZEX kit, i was wondering if theres someway i can convert the kit to a wet shot, even though i would only be running a 50 shot or less. id only do this if i could get everything for less than 300 bucks, because i could just get a BNR or something.