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What is the best/easiest way to loose weight of TII? Do not want to rip off hole interior.2600lbs would be great to achieve.

Pinfield357

start removing things you dont need...

A/C
P/S
TAR
Sound deadening material just to mention a few things

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

wtf they actually made 92 TII's? I thought they just sold off the last of 91 year models wtf

ilike2eatricers

He is in Finland. I think that explains it.

Pinfield357

ya there is 92s in europe and such

DAN CARWIN

you don't get any more Hp by molesting your TurboII leave all the stock **** on.

Pinfield357

no more HP but its lighter which is just as good if not some times better

poor_red_neck

He didnt ask anything about HP...

And also for your information removing the power steering and A/C may gain back 1~2 HP or so... reduced friction on the engine.

You obviously have no knowledge of power:weight....

Take two cars, both are identical drivetraines and aerodynamics....

Both with 250 HP

One weighs 3200 Lbs.
Other weighs 2800 Lbs.

Which one do you think would win?

If weight didnt matter, why would 1600+HP top fuel dragsters only weigh ~2200~ lbs, instead of 3000+?

Taking just the PowerSteering and A/C won't do an incredible amount of good, every bit helps... removing the carpet, and all that tar, putting in new "light weight" carpet. Remove A/C, Power Steering, get light weight seats, lose the spare tire, other **** like that. It all starts add-up, or really decrease (weight that is).

I may not be very smart about FC's just yet, but I do know that you are providing 'false information'.

He asked how to lighten his TII, to most likely gain more speed and/or handling.

Now 2600 lbs would be a bit harder to achieve, without stripping alot. How much do they weight stock? ~3100 lbs?

1987RX7guy

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TII's are around 28-2900 pounds I beleive. The number should be in the FAQ

5 point whoa

UMM, its what ya might wanna call weight reduction!

amused

with me in the car, my TII weighs 2875

thats after removing:

a/c rack and condenser
p/s rack
passenger seat
air pump

BDoty311

Over here in the States most tow truck companies dont use the tow hooks front or back, so you can remove those. Front and back they add up to around 12lbs.

Remove emissions if you have them and you wont get legally punished for doing so.

DAN CARWIN

All right POOR RED NECK, the name fits you well i'm sure. Any way I'm saying for all the **** you have to rip off and destroy, it not worth the small if any gains of SPEED or your 1-2 hp bull ****. I have worked on more FCs then you could ever come close too. I have done actual test to prove my point. I have removed everything and ran it qtr mile, then put it all back on and it was 2/10ths of a second quiker. big F deal... so go ahead and Gutt your CATs, take your p/s a/c smog pump all that **** for your missley 1 -2 hp gains. it not ******* wortht it. It you don't know much about FC yet keep your RED NECK *** mouth shut...

1987RX7guy

iTrader: (3)

Hey well get out of the thread if you can't provide positive feedback. The poster of this thread doesn't care about WORTH IT or NOT WORTH IT he asked a question. Removing accesories removes complexity and makes for easier wrenching on his FC. HE also lessens the weight some and gains a little power. If he wants to do it then let him. Its not going to make the car worthless to him. Its going to be better for him so leave him and his car alone.

BDoty311

That sure is one well sourced test you did. Removing weight improves acceleration, braking, handling, and road holding. Why do you think that 300hp RX-7s can beat 300hp+ mustangs and camaros? Its because our cars weigh less. And how much does it cost to unbolt something? Oh ya its practically free, i forgot.

But at least youve worked on more FCs than anyone, and think that weight reduction isnt worth it.

ilike2eatricers

We need icemark to come regulate. No flaming.

BDoty311

That sure is one well sourced test you did. Removing weight improves acceleration, braking, handling, and road holding. Why do you think that 300hp RX-7s can beat 300hp+ mustangs and camaros? Its because our cars weigh less. And how much does it cost to unbolt something? Oh ya its practically free, i forgot.

But at least youve worked on more FCs than anyone, and think that weight reduction isnt worth it.

5 point whoa

yeah, that dude all ready pissed me off earlier

DAN CARWIN

completely missed the point. I wish I could get my education where you guys got yours........ in fact I think I'm going to start removing all my sound deadning material under my carpet so It can free up 30Hp and I will go wayyy faster .... you guys know alottt.. thanks for good info.

SnowmanSteiner

I believe it was Sport Compact that took a completely stock Nissan Sentra and dropped like two or three seconds in the quater mile time. Granted near the end they were getting crazy and removing fenders. So tell me since you say that removing weight doesn't make you much faster, how they made the car lose two seconds in the quarter when they did no mods except removing weight. Tell me that and I will gladly say you're right.

- Steiner

BDoty311

Dan I have nothing to said to you that hasnt already been said. Im not trying to stop a flame war here.


BTW- The Sentra in SCC had no exhaust, so i guess you could consider that a mod.

SnowmanSteiner

http://www.mustangworld.com/forums/s...threadid=22230

There found it. And yeah no exhaust and a re-routed intake. But if you can find an intake that will give you two seconds in the quarter I'll be the first to buy it. Now like I said in the end they get crazy, and chop the top but, it is still weight reduction. So there you go, prove to me that the two second drop in the quarter mile time was due to no exhaust and intake.

- Steiner

poor_red_neck

I wasn't going to take the time to respond to this, but the point has been made, and not just by me, but others, as you have obviously already read. I've decided otherwise, and maybe.... JUST MAYBE, my "Red Neck ***" is correct on this... seems Im correct so far, along with the other 4-6+ member so far, that have stated the same thing.

What was this thread starter's question?

HOW TO LOSE WEIGHT ON HIS TII

What's the answer?

WHAT I TOLD HIM

Im not going to flame you back, as that doesn't get anything accomplished. It is a PROVEN fact that removing weight increases all the above stated performance oriented tasks.

You working on FC's has little to do with the fact that lowering weight will help performance one way or another. You may have picked this up... taking off the tow hooks... 12 lbs, big "f***in deal right"

Well, shall we get others in here to add up weight they have saved, and the noticed increase in performance?

Im assuming that he will want to race this car in some way or another.

Any of you guys feeling proving this guy wrong, as to what you have removed and/or replaced with ligher materials, and state what it helped? (1/4 times, track/autoX performance)

All I got to say about the subject,
Jonathan

DAN CARWIN

I'm stating my point here: I NEVER said that you can not gain any HP or speed by completlley stripping your car, or doing weight reductions, BUT what I'm saying is it does not seem worth it to REMOVE all FUCTIONAL PARTS such as your P/S A/C and EMISSIONS etc.... for 1-2 HP gain on a daily driver for a car. NOW if this is his RACE CAR ONLY, I can see a point to it. but understand that doing MODS to it can make up for the weight reduction affect and you still have useful stock parts that actually work well. And one last thing there is no way in absoulte HELL that a SENTRA dropped 3 seconds in a qtr mile just by doing weight reductions He must have been sitting on the frame with no body to it.

SnowmanSteiner

You're right it wasn't three seconds it was two. Look at the link it's actually kind of funny. And as far as loosing weight and it being a daily driver it's up to the own person's decisions. I removed ac ps air pump omp and all emissions, on my car and it's a daily driver. That's just me though, I don't need those extra accesories, so I opted to remove them. It's all up to the owner and what options they want on the car, or the ones they can do with out. So if he wants to remove that stuff great, if he decides he wants to keep it great. It's his decision.

- Steiner