vetter

Yes i am a honda guy getting ready for the cross-over and i have a few questions. please dont flame on my hatch.

1. GTu-s. how light are they? how light can u get them down to? 2200?

2. what is need for TII motor in GTu-s? the car already has the TII tranny.

3. How much are the circle taillights worth? (the ones on the convertable)

4. At what power/boost level do you need to swap out the stock TII injectors? What "cc" are they?

5. At what boost level is the stock TII turbine efficient to?

6. Can i reach 250rwhp with stock turbo?



thanx.

Bio-Weapon

1) I think its next to impossible to get down to 2200 lbs without totally gutting the car. 88IntegraLS has one of the lightest FCs around, at 2420lbs.
2) Search, but if youre planning on converting a GTUs, please reconsider. They are rare.
3) the circle tail lights are standard S5 tail lights. They go from anywhere from $100-300 on ebay.
4) only need to swap injectors when they reach a high duty cycle, and are no longer efficient. Theyre 550cc i believe
5) ive heard people say that its no longer efficient over 14 psi, 12 psi, and some people say they boost to 17 or 18 psi on the stock turbo.
6) yes.

search and you will find detailed answers to every question you asked.

hybridracer

1. Not sure
2. Tii motor, tii ecu, tII tranny (no the GTU's doesnt have a tII tranny), turbo II hood unless you go front mount, TII rear end, im just gonna stop there you can look at the FAQ or search for the rest for a TII swap.
3. Roughly 150-200
4. Stock are 550cc i believe, its always a good idea to upgrade your injectors when upping your boost.
4. I think its efficient up to 14psi but dont quote me on that.
6. Yes

hybridracer

Ha damn you beat me to it by one minute!!

vetter

what i meant was the car already has a turbo 2 hood, tranny, and rear end. the car has no motor so i might as well go turbo b/c the car is a big bloated pig.

hybridracer

:: Youre calling a gtu's a big bloated pig???? Man check the weight on a vert Anyways if it already has those things put on it, then all youll need is the same series motor from the car only turbo and the same series turbo ecu, a boost sensor, and the turbo II MAF from the same series.

Evil Aviator

LOL, yes, the car is heavy because it has the heavy TII drivetrain attached to the heavy 89-92 body.

Anyway, to answer your questions that haven't been answered up to this point:

They are around 2800lbs. Getting it down to 2200lbs depends on what you want to remove. If you are looking for a light 2Gen RX-7, the 86-88 cars were nearly 200lbs lighter. My recommendation is the 86-87 Sport or 88 GTU for non-turbo cars, or to just get a TII if you want a turbocharged engine. If you are just going to strip the heck out of the car, then any 86-88 model will work just fine.

The "need" is only there if you want a turbocharged engine.

The stock injectors are 458cc/min @ 40psi for the non-turbo engines, 550cc/min @ 40psi for the TII. See the next reply for changing out injectors...

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FM2W/power.htm

vetter

my friend has a vert. and i drive a 89 hatch so anything over 2500lbs is a pig to me. thanx for the replies guys. weight is the enemy. the car will be completly gutted and my goal is to get it under 2500 w/driver.

Icemark

Not stock it doesn't. The GTUs comes stock with the standard M-type tranny with a 'vert 5th gear.

Evil Aviator

I think that he means the car is a Frankenseven GTUs roller with a TII hood and transmission but no engine.

Icemark

You'd be surprised at the mis-infomation out there and the number of mid-west RX-7 chapters that claim it came with the Turbo tranny.

Just making sure.

Evil Aviator

I know what you mean, but it's not limited to the mid-west. I've heard the "it's the TurboII without the turbo" BS for over a decade now.

Icemark

I know, I just see it mostly on Mid-west club webpages

Project84

If I remember correctly, the round tail lights from the convertible are not the same fit as the ones from the regular coupe.

slow87turbo

yesh they aint. the vert tails have the key hole for the trunk. would look kinnda weird to have 2 hey holes in the back of your fc. not to mention other fitment issues.


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vetter

dont know about the tail ights. but there on the car and ive seen them. and yes the car is kinda like a frankestein. the car has a TII tranny. not the stock one. thanx for all the replies. i think i ll be paying him for the shell this week.body has one minor dent and needs paint. the interior is pristine and black(which i am told is worht gold). the car need TII motor and paint and shes back on the road.

Center of The Universe

I smell a drag racer.

vetter

drifter baby.

Center of The Universe

Doesn't sound like any drifter i know. Most drifters I know would be more worried about supension than horsepower when building a new car.

I think it's high time you reconsiderd where the money for that TII engine is going. Or do you already have this covered.

Your going to hurt yourself with all that power and no supension to back it up.

vetter

i never posted complete setup did i. no. i think getting the car running good first should be number one on the agenda. no good having a car that has Tein HE's on it but doesnt run. right? oh, if your asking my suspension setup:

Tein HE
Cusco camber plates
Sus Tech Sway bars
Tanabe Front brace


i already ordered the Tanabe brace. i am waintg for my Tein hoo-up to get me a price. he is a wuthorized dealer of Tein and hell sell them to me at his cost. it will be under $1k tho.

Center of The Universe

Nice choices. 'Specialy the Cusco bit.

Nice you see you have your priorities streight. I just post as a concerned memeber of the slideways community. Glad you have the stuff you need/want. Be safe.

vetter

thanx bro. i thought maybe you guys would be lees receptive to a honda owner but you havent. i appreciate that.

Icemark

Because you are starting to see the light!

Center of The Universe

Or he is starting to feel the drug.

vetter

i think its influence of my friends.

Chuck:
sliver T2
89 vert
89 GTUs
GXL

he selling me the gtus. he sold the vert for $500 to my friend ryan who also owns a gsl-se. and lastly my friend rob has a 81 gs w/26xxx original miles on it and he is building a j-bridge motor for it. i have one friend who has a 12sec crx.





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