2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Hi versus lo impedance injectors?

Old 12-19-06, 09:11 AM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
Zachmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi versus lo impedance injectors?

I am swapping a 1986 N/A 13B back to EFI from carburation and I am going with a MT-4 microtech fuel only and letting the dist. handle the ignition. I can go with either the lo or high impedance injectors as I have a set of both fresh from witchhunter and I will be starting from scratch on connectors. The Q is is there any advantage to one versus the other. The Microtech write up indicates I can use either?

No porting, header, stock NA injectors.
Old 12-19-06, 09:51 AM
  #2  
Engine, Not Motor

iTrader: (1)
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 29,789
Likes: 0
Received 108 Likes on 91 Posts
Nope. Use either one.
Old 12-19-06, 09:56 AM
  #3  
Respecognize!

 
Whizbang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Anchor Bay, CA
Posts: 4,106
Received 71 Likes on 42 Posts
i perfer low impedance injectors (having NOTHING TO DO WITH MY NAME) mostly because most of the older cars i come across at the junk yard use low impedance injectors. I guess its a 80's jap car thing.

but in terms of a "performance" viewpoint, Aaron beat me to it.
Old 12-19-06, 10:00 AM
  #4  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
Zachmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess the decision could then be based on wether anyone wants to buy a set of four fresh NA S4 or S5 injectors. I'll post them in the FS section and use whatever doesn't sell!
Old 07-08-15, 03:39 AM
  #5  
SLO Cruiser
 
GeneticDrift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montrose, CA
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry to dig up a old thread.
But, I got the same Question, different car.
1987 Turbo II, w/ MT-4 microtech, resistor pack is deleted from previous owner.

So you can use either low or high impedance injectors?
Old 07-08-15, 08:37 AM
  #6  
Penis Healthy

iTrader: (5)
 
FührerTüner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: █▬█ █▄█ █▬█ █▄██▬█ █▄█ █▬█ █▄█
Posts: 2,595
Received 773 Likes on 443 Posts
i believe it was already answered above. Use either.
Old 07-08-15, 10:15 AM
  #7  
Retired Moderator, RIP

iTrader: (142)
 
misterstyx69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
Posts: 25,581
Likes: 0
Received 131 Likes on 114 Posts
Impedance refers to the Resistance of the injector.
Think of it as a valve in a pipe..like restricting flow of current to the ECU.
Now the ECU is set for a certain amount of Flow and resistance and if you use a different Impedance it can alter the performance of the Ecu and may go as far as frying it.
That is why IF the Ecu needs to see HIGH Impedance they Combine a LO impedance injector with a Resistor pack.To even things out and make the LO's "look like High impedance" so the ECU is happy.

Last edited by misterstyx69; 07-08-15 at 10:17 AM.
Old 07-08-15, 11:37 AM
  #8  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
the microtech can handle either high or low impedence injectors. it can even go as far as running a pair of high impedence and a pair of low impedence injectors and vice versa for each stage.

i have run low impedence injectors on my car for 10 years without a resistor pack.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 07-08-15 at 11:39 AM.
Old 07-08-15, 02:19 PM
  #9  
SLO Cruiser
 
GeneticDrift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montrose, CA
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks guys for the info!
Its interesting how these ecu's can use either.
Old 07-11-15, 10:41 AM
  #10  
Engine, Not Motor

iTrader: (1)
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 29,789
Likes: 0
Received 108 Likes on 91 Posts
It's because the IC used to drive the injectors is a peak and hold driver with current sensing. I forget the part number but it is able to compensate. This isn't done in an OEM application because those driver ICs are 100x the cost of a MOSFET and OEMs don't care if someone wants to swap around injector impedances.

Fact is, the increased resolution of new modern high impedance injectors is wasted on a crude non-interpolating ECU such as the Microtech anyway. So run whatever injectors are good, available and inexpensive. Me, a set of OEM FC injectors drilled for 720 as primaries and the good old Ford 1680 CC secondaries.
Old 07-11-15, 11:06 AM
  #11  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,761
Received 2,556 Likes on 1,819 Posts
the high impedance vs low impedance use a different amount of current flow. the Mazda ecu is sized to run high impedance injectors, and thus needs the resistor pack. the aftermarket ecu's seem to use a higher current driver.

ohms law, 12v/12ohms = 1 amp

vs 12v/4ohms = 3 amps
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
HalifaxFD
Canadian Forum
126
05-09-16 07:06 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Hi versus lo impedance injectors?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:47 AM.