2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

hesitation throughout and loss of punch

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-14-10, 06:23 PM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bokboked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Davis, California
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hesitation throughout and loss of punch

So i've been searching and havent really found any conclusive info that applies to my situation so please help me diagnose my problem?

So just recently out of no where i've been getting really bad hesitations while i accelerate. It makes it very hard for me to even start off in 1st.

When i accelerate it seems like i'm going on and off the accelerator but im holding it still in actuality. i have a small hesitation at 3500 which is the usual thing but it hesitates all around the rpms.

If i floor the pedal, the car accelerates but not at the normal accelerating speed and it just seems like there is a lack of power.

The car is an 86 na and all stock with just a free flowing bonez cat.

please throw out just advice and wat i should check before replacing things.

Known issues:
-slave is leaking and needs replacement.
-throw-out and pilot bearing need replacement.
-Clutch needs replacement as well.
Old 06-14-10, 07:24 PM
  #2  
Whipping thru traffic.

iTrader: (12)
 
waldog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: In a box.
Posts: 777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What kind of gas you using?
Old 06-14-10, 07:39 PM
  #3  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bokboked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Davis, California
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
regular 87
Old 06-14-10, 08:25 PM
  #4  
rotors excite me

iTrader: (16)
 
SpeedOfLife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central Iowa
Posts: 4,083
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Fuel filter? Bad TPS? Bad O2 sensor? Fouled plugs? Leaky injector(s)? Wouldn't hurt to check the compression either, just to be sure.
Old 06-14-10, 09:05 PM
  #5  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bokboked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Davis, California
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
kk fuel filter was just replaced so that shouldnt be the cause, o2 sensor is fairly new as well at most one year.. TPS i'll have to check, plugs were replaced but will have to check. injectors? maybe havent touched them.

thanks for the input speed i'll check back with updates.

anyone else have any other things i can check?
Old 06-14-10, 09:46 PM
  #6  
Sideways is the only way

iTrader: (2)
 
FC_fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Vermont
Posts: 958
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
did you change the plug wires recently too? might be those, I have had them arcing like crazy before for some reason (maybe just stock 1986 wires,idk it was when I first got the car) and it acted like you are saying. does it feel like its misfiring kinda? definintely look in the bay at night to see if you have arcing from the wires. could a bad coil pack cause this too guys? I don't know about the pack but just my .02
Old 06-14-10, 10:03 PM
  #7  
lite rotary = easy push

iTrader: (1)
 
barnett87rx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Whitby
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
try the grounds the 3500 hesitation is a bad ground that screws up the secondary injectors
Old 06-17-10, 02:53 AM
  #8  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bokboked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Davis, California
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Will try all this and check back soon. out of the country for a bit but thanks for everyone's feedback!
Old 06-17-10, 01:21 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
calpatriot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First thing is always *check for codes*
Make any repairs as necessary to clear codes
Check for closed loop operation at cruise
Check fuel pressure
Check for proper operation of EGR
Check for proper operation of double throttle diaphram, thermovalve, delay valve
Check TPS for max/min resistance values, dropouts, and then adjust
Check AFM for resistance values and dropouts
Check for excessive backpressure (does the problem go away if you pull the O2 sensor and leave the hole open?)
When was the last time the fuel injectors were cleaned? If it has been more than 30k miles, that could be part of the problem...
Water themo sensor
Intake air temp sensor
Altitude sensor
Boost sensor

Backprobe the connectors to the ECU and compare voltages against those pubished in the AFM, for 'ignition on/not running', and 'running, at temp' conditions.
Old 06-17-10, 02:49 PM
  #10  
Touge/Drifto

iTrader: (7)
 
FC3S Mitchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Fort Hood, Texas
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if it feels like its bogging, could possibly be belt slippage, the alternator could use some readjustment, the belt could be worn... if it occurs alot when you turn (sharp, or not) its the belt mos def
Old 06-19-10, 01:21 AM
  #11  
Full Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bokboked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Davis, California
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
oooh wow great thanks everyone. not really sure on how to test everything that calpatriot said but i'll check the fsm cause i think they have all the info there. i'll check back in a month when im back in the states
Old 11-30-10, 02:52 PM
  #12  
Full Member

 
the faster one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: tucson, AZ
Posts: 52
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AZ

i am having the same problem.
i own an 88 na
i have my suspicions about the EGR valve being the problem as i can hear a loud ticking that sounds like it is coming from the top of the motor, where the EGR would be.
my hesitation is mostly in the idle-3.5k rpm range, after that she seems to run smooth however with lack of power
NOTE: this happens very infrequently which is also concerning. some days it will be perfect and some days a mess... another guess for the EGR, ground short, or injector failure.
my vehicle also has hard starts in the morning cold and stumbles all over the place till she's warm.

im not sure why but my finger is pointed at the EGR. could i be right??
Old 11-30-10, 03:04 PM
  #13  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
satch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tulsa,ok.
Posts: 11,738
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Originally Posted by the faster one
i am having the same problem.
i own an 88 na
i have my suspicions about the EGR valve being the problem as i can hear a loud ticking that sounds like it is coming from the top of the motor, where the EGR would be.
my hesitation is mostly in the idle-3.5k rpm range, after that she seems to run smooth however with lack of power
NOTE: this happens very infrequently which is also concerning. some days it will be perfect and some days a mess... another guess for the EGR, ground short, or injector failure.
my vehicle also has hard starts in the morning cold and stumbles all over the place till she's warm.

im not sure why but my finger is pointed at the EGR. could i be right??
The EGR is just for emissions and would not affect the drivability of the car unless it was causing a vacuum leak as far as I know. While the car is running spray some carb cleaner on it and observe for a change in the idle. No change in idle thus llikely no leak.
Old 04-12-11, 11:32 AM
  #14  
'91 RX-7 No Idle

 
MNMarine1991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Janesville, MN
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a 91 N/A and having the same issue. I just bought it, the owner before me took the air pump off and 6P valve actuators off. Do I need them? He also told me it is Streetported and I need to run Premium, is that true? I am going to try the solutions previously posted on my car today.
Old 04-12-11, 07:13 PM
  #15  
Full Member

 
the faster one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: tucson, AZ
Posts: 52
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
there is a known grounding issue to the secondary fuel rail that allows the secondarys to intermittently work causing a form of hesitation and irregularity

also, you would need the airpump if you wish to utilize the auxiliary ports and the VDI. it is not necessary to have these things, but it is also dependent on how your car is setup. are the port sleeves still installed in the vehicle or are the actuators and sleeves removed? no sleeves= no power until 3800... dont think premium is required after a street port but ill let someone more knowledgeable chime in on that.

Last edited by the faster one; 04-12-11 at 07:20 PM. Reason: revision
Old 04-12-11, 07:17 PM
  #16  
Work In Progress
iTrader: (3)
 
armen505's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Glendale CA
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Check your coil packs for spark. Same thing happenned to me and it turned out to be one of the leading coils. I was running on one rotor.

Oops, just realized this is an old thread...Oh well.....Check your coil packs anyway.

Last edited by armen505; 04-12-11 at 07:28 PM.
Old 04-12-11, 07:22 PM
  #17  
Full Member

 
the faster one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: tucson, AZ
Posts: 52
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
^^ +1
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dona1326cosprings7
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
4
10-29-15 06:47 AM
musker
New Member RX-7 Technical
1
10-01-15 05:58 PM
Zinraf
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
3
10-01-15 01:09 PM



Quick Reply: hesitation throughout and loss of punch



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:09 AM.