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Old 02-25-02, 03:25 PM
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I had a problem a couple months ago and it seems something else went wrong. Due to my master losing fluid and causing me to get stuck in quite a few uncomfortable places I bought a rebuild kit and fixed it (simple, a monkey could do it). Then I went and got the slave replaced to make everthing flow well. Well I just got back from pushing my car about a half mile home. The clutch pedal dropped to the floor and that was that. I checked the fluid and it is still full. What the hell else could it be?
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Any obvious leaks???&nbsp Check the clutch slave hose and the clutch slave cylinder on the transmission.&nbsp If they are original, this is the reason why I recommend changing all three at the same time - weakest link in the chain...



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I just went to check. There are no obvious leaks. I do not believe it is leaking at all because the fluid is not going anywhere. What else would I check? I have not replaced the hose. Where should I inspect it for damage?
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Originally posted by Freeway
What else would I check?
That's about it in terms of clutch hydraulics.&nbsp Very remote that the clutch fork collapsed, that's a pretty far stretch - you didn't pull the transmission, right?

I have not replaced the hose. Where should I inspect it for damage?
There are only two hose ends.&nbsp One end is on the clutch slave cylinder, so you would see fluid all over the trans.&nbsp The other is right above the brake master cylinder/booster on the firewall - this should be obvious if it's leaking also.

It could be the rebuild you performed failed...


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I don't know anyone who has done a sucessful rebuild on the master cylinders. I would just go to a Bone Yard and Pick up a used one. Thats what I did. Works great now!

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nope, I didn't pull the trans. I was hoping I could find a way to be sure the master went because I would have to get started on it right now. I have school on wed. I checked the base of the pedal too and there is no fluid there either. Hmmmm.... I'm gonna go check it again to see if any leaking has started. Otherwise do you think I should rebuild it again?
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When I rebuilt my Master Cylinder, That is exactly what it did. It would just sit on the floor. It wouldn't pump up or anything.

I went to the Junk Yard and got one and it has never acted up since......

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If your fluid level is up, and the pedal is to the floor, you have a mechanical problem. Such as the fork that the rod on the slave cylinder pushes being broken. Take the oil filter off. Grab the fork that comes out of the transmission with your fingers. Shove back and forth on that lever. If it just slops around, something is broken downstairs in the throwout bearing/ pressure plate area. Prior to doing that you should try bleeding the clutch slave cylinder. Take the oil filter out to make it easier to bleed. I was assuming that you had already done this, thats why I wrote the first part of this post.
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it has been bled properly I have been driving with these replaced for months now. I hope it isn't the fork that you say it is. How much is that gonna set me back assuming I can't do it myself? I'm going on vacation to south beach in a week so I'm kinda struck for cash. I'll check the fork tomorrow but I am hoping I can resolve this problem myself....cheap!!
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I have an update to my current situation. I pushed the fork in and out a couple of times and it built up pressure in the pedal. I put the clutch in and out about 4 times, heard a little pop and it went dead to the floor again. I can keep building pressure in the pedal this way but after a few presses it goes dead to the floor. What do you think now?
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I think you have a problem with pressure bypassing a seal inside the master cylinder or slave cylinder. Did you hone out the inside of the cylinder when you did the rebuild? If not then this is what the problem is. The new seals simply can't work properly on the old surface.

When you move the clutch fork back and forth you are creating a reverse pressure that pushes the clutch pedal back up. After a few uses the fliud bypasses and you are back to square one.




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