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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Here I go again, need help with housing

Hi all,
I'm rebuiding my engine, TII 1987 109k before a coolant seal went. I went to Home Depot and got the ZEP degreaser/cleaner and I set one of the housings on a container with the cleaner, straight, not add water and after clening it for a long while the outside of one of housing turned dark, like blackish, I haven't clean the other one yet because I got conceerned, I did not have time this morning to try to sand it but I am going to night. Is this a problem or I just can paint it. Please help I do not want to think I screwed up my housing.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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You can probably wire brush it. Rinse it with water, if you haven't already, to get the rest of the cleaner off.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I am going to do that tonight, I did wash the cleaner off but still looks very dark. I really think (and hope) the housing has not been damage but the chemical.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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thats some risky business, not sure which housing your talkin about, but painting any surface that comes in contact with seals is definately out of the question. As well as wire brushing it, the only time you want to remove material, is when you have the housing lapped or resurfaced by a rotary specific machine shop.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Sorry for not explainig well the situation, thei inside is perfect, the dark coloration occurred on the outside of the housing
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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You said outside in your original post.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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I cleaned my Rotor housings with just a wire brush and brake cleaner.
I did the same for my rotors but they still are oil stained.
I still need to do my "side" housings. I also have ZEP cleaner.
The stuff said not to use it on aluminum, I think thats what the Rotor housings are made of. U probably shouldn't have use it strait, it seems like powerfull stuff.
And rising it off is a factor It shouldn't dry on there. Let me know how yours turn out.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Here are some pictures

Hey guys this are pictures of the housing after cleaning it witht e ZEP cleaner, I have to admit that it is my fault because I left it in the container for longer that I should, so please let me know what you guys think.
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<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/casolorzano/housing1.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"><br><br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/casolorzano/housing2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"><br><br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/casolorzano/housing3.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"><br><br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/casolorzano/housing4.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com"><br><br>
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/housing1.jpg
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/housing2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/housing3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/housing4.jpg
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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the seal surfaces look fine but imo, you guys shouldn't be playing with this Zep stuff while rebuilding these motors.

i only use carburetor clean, brake cleaner, mineral spirits and soapy engine degreaser solution.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Thanks Karack, and you are 100% correct, it is a great cleaner but not the way I used it. For the first minutes the chemical took all the grease out but I wanted to have it perfectly clean and left it for hours and I screwed it really bad and it has pores every where.
I hope the housing will be ok
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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did it eat away at the chromed surface inside the housing?

if you do plan on using the housing be sure to pressure test the engine when it is reassembled to be sure it doesn't have any pinhole leaks in the cooling system.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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The chromed surface is in perfect shape and it was not affected byt the chemical, I am trying to sand paper the surface to make it less porely but it is coming out pretty good,
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
the seal surfaces look fine but imo, you guys shouldn't be playing with this Zep stuff while rebuilding these motors.

i only use carburetor clean, brake cleaner, mineral spirits and soapy engine degreaser solution.
Zep Industrial Purple worked wonders for my rotors! But if you're gonna do that, kiss your bearings goodbye, which I was planning on replacing anyways
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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kinda off topic....but is that ZEP APC available at Home Depot or something?
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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I got my Industrial Purple and Industrial Orange from Home Depot. They have a huge section for just industrial cleaners and degreasers. My current engine build I bought a huge bucket of the purple stuff to soak the rotors in and clean the outside of the irons, worked great!
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Yes they work great, it was just the way I used it, I left the housing for too long in the staight chemical solution
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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[kinda off topic....but is that ZEP APC available at Home Depot or something?]
Yes, theZEP degreaser is available at Home Depot in two sizes.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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How long did you let your housing sit in carlrx788?

How long did you let your rotor sit in dDub?

Just trying to figure some things out is all.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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From my other, project thread about the rotors:

Originally Posted by dDuB
Update I suppose. Today was a day for cleaning. During the process I discovered that I will NOT be using either of my housings, this means I need 1 more s5 n/a low mileage/good condition housing since I already have one. I will also be lapping my irons because of wear, but I had already planned on doing that anyways so no biggie.

I cleaned up my rotors all nice. Here's some pics.

This is what I used for cleaning them


How they looked to begin with


Submerged in the solution


After about an hour


Another 30-45 min later this is how they looked after coming out


Bling Bling!






My product review of Zep Purple Industrial Cleaner/Degreaser is a thumbs up!

So the soaking time was about 1.5 to 2hrs in undiluted cleaner, and after pulling them out I used normal old scotch brite to clean up what was left, came off fairly easily.

Just remember, if you're going to do this expect to replace your rotor bearings!

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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it may work ok for the rotors only if you plan on replacing the bearings afterwards and cleaning the irons and other misc steel parts but don't let it touch aluminum.


now i'm outta here before i get blamed for people misconstruing this stuff and it's purpose.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I would never use it on the housings

Just rotors, provided the bearings are replaced, and the OUTSIDE of the irons, not the surfaces of them.

My .02!
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Then what's the safest thing to use on the housings that still works good? Castrol Super Clean?

**EDIT** And the rotor bearings are actually called that...or is the what thrust bearings are? Im lookin at RA's site and their rebuild kit trying to find what they look like and what they are called.

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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super clean works decent, mix up a solution with some of that and warm water and take a wire brush and scrub the **** outta them. i use a hot water parts washer, works great but not everyone has access to that type of equipment.
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