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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 7fold
THINGS HUH? i bet not a lug or lug nut.

nice try, it actually proves everything about my ability to work on suspension, tires and wheels... thats why when you torque down a lug nut, you must do it by hand with a torque wrench to the manufactures specs... an impact gun is too hard on a lug and a lug nut and will snap or break them if you sit there and let it run. I would know.

now, back to helping this guy...

using a breaker bar is the best and most safe way to do it, it will help you be more smooth and have a better chance of not breaking it off... simple as that
Are u a certified tech or just a guy who bust tires?
It goes both ways. Ive broken studs/ bolts etc with both a breaker bar and impact gun. Being as this guy doesnt have an impact gun, lube and a breaker bar is his best option.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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It will go off calibration over time. Especially since your maxing it out. Its also good to set the torque wrench back to 0 when not in use. Im sure after 8 hours of work everyday takes it toll on the wrench. Especially since your setting the wrench back to 0 after every useage

I never use the torque wrench for turning off bolts although u can.
Oh without a doubt. We went through a mastercraft top of the line torque wrench within a month. Just imagine how many vehicles you torque in a month.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by theflatlander
Are u a certified tech or just a guy who bust tires?
It goes both ways. Ive broken studs/ bolts etc with both a breaker bar and impact gun. Being as this guy doesnt have an impact gun, lube and a breaker bar is his best option.
yes i am certified of course

les schwab requires all of their sales and service techs to be certified.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 7fold
yes i am certified of course

les schwab requires all of their sales and service techs to be certified.
Not saying that you aren't competent, but I wouldn't use the fact that you work at any tire store to prove your abilities, certified or not. There are a lot of certified idiots working in tire stores. Lots of horror stories out there of wheels falling off a few miles down the road, stripped or crossthreaded lug nuts/studs, messed up wheels etc. I'm sure you are not one of those idiots, or at least you don't seem to be, and you are certified... Just pointing out that a lot of people, mostly those who do their own work, don't have a high opinion of tire stores in general.

And IMO a stuck lug nut doesn't give a flip if you have a breaker bar or an impact on it, if it's weak it'll break either way. Usually the impact gun has an advantage in that it shocks it (not called an "impact" gun for nothing) which sometimes will break it free, whereas a bar will just round it or the socket off, or break the stud. Although I agree that a gun will tear something up much easier than hand tools will also.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 7fold
an impact gun is too hard on a lug and a lug nut and will snap or break them if you sit there and let it run.

Like I said, you're doing it wrong.

What kind of tard would just let an impact wrench go to town on a lug nut like that?

And I'm talking about *removing* fasteners in general, not tightening lug nuts.

Obviously you're supposed to tighten a lug nut with a torque wrench.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Why must we argue over such a trivial point?
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Because we can. I maintain my point, anti-seize plus impact is the way to go.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Force Fed
Not saying that you aren't competent, but I wouldn't use the fact that you work at any tire store to prove your abilities, certified or not. There are a lot of certified idiots working in tire stores. Lots of horror stories out there of wheels falling off a few miles down the road, stripped or crossthreaded lug nuts/studs, messed up wheels etc. I'm sure you are not one of those idiots, or at least you don't seem to be, and you are certified... Just pointing out that a lot of people, mostly those who do their own work, don't have a high opinion of tire stores in general.

And IMO a stuck lug nut doesn't give a flip if you have a breaker bar or an impact on it, if it's weak it'll break either way. Usually the impact gun has an advantage in that it shocks it (not called an "impact" gun for nothing) which sometimes will break it free, whereas a bar will just round it or the socket off, or break the stud. Although I agree that a gun will tear something up much easier than hand tools will also.

true that, most of the guys that worked in my shop were not "bad" techs... they had the skills, they just didnt give a **** if they did a good job... its not too hard to get certified, its just that most the people dont give a **** about your car, just their bonuses....
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