Help me decide how I should do away with my seven...
06-02-05, 04:07 PM
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Help me decide how I should do away with my seven...
Hate to say this, but it has to go, there is seriously not much hope left at all for it.
There are two options that I have left myself with, both are to get rid of it.
1) Sell it as is, for whatever its worth as a parts car. This is where I need your help in determining its value
2) Strip it down for parts, and then haul the body and rest to the junkyard.
I'd keep everything thats good, like interrior parts, the shortblock and tranny are still good, keep like the coils, and other miscellanious things for parts.
Either option I choose, another seven will be in the works. My current body is just garbage, and I don't want to fix it.
Some slight history
Series 4 87 NA base model RX7 GX
Engine has decent compression, like 100 on each rotor when the block is warm, I did another test the other day this time with the tester all the way in the hole
The tranny shows no signs of deterroration, other than worn bushings.
The car, is completley undrivable becuase of all the emission/intake mods I have done to it. My fault, I know, live and learn, and I don't regret it becuase I have learned SOOO much about how the intake works and how to rebuild it.
So I was thinking of saving the good parts, or selling it as a whole. I have room to store the parts, but I want to get rid of the body indefenitly. Its pretty much trashed.
My main goal is to buy a TurboII body for cheap and get myself a blown TII engine and rebuild it in my spare time. I will have a buick century for a daily driver so this is something I plan to do over time.
What do you guys think?
thx
There are two options that I have left myself with, both are to get rid of it.
1) Sell it as is, for whatever its worth as a parts car. This is where I need your help in determining its value
2) Strip it down for parts, and then haul the body and rest to the junkyard.
I'd keep everything thats good, like interrior parts, the shortblock and tranny are still good, keep like the coils, and other miscellanious things for parts.
Either option I choose, another seven will be in the works. My current body is just garbage, and I don't want to fix it.
Some slight history
Series 4 87 NA base model RX7 GX
Engine has decent compression, like 100 on each rotor when the block is warm, I did another test the other day this time with the tester all the way in the hole
The tranny shows no signs of deterroration, other than worn bushings.
The car, is completley undrivable becuase of all the emission/intake mods I have done to it. My fault, I know, live and learn, and I don't regret it becuase I have learned SOOO much about how the intake works and how to rebuild it.
So I was thinking of saving the good parts, or selling it as a whole. I have room to store the parts, but I want to get rid of the body indefenitly. Its pretty much trashed.
My main goal is to buy a TurboII body for cheap and get myself a blown TII engine and rebuild it in my spare time. I will have a buick century for a daily driver so this is something I plan to do over time.
What do you guys think?
thx
06-02-05, 04:38 PM
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hahaha, yea, but see theres a problem with that, im an honest person
Im seriously thinking of keeping the good parts. The last couple months I've been looking at all kinds of 80-90's sports cars, just deciding what would I like to work on the best. Even after all this time of trying to find something else other than the rotary, I keep on coming back to it. Honestly, I looked at SOOOOO many options, and I think the only one that came close was the MR2 cause its a midship. Still, becuase of what I do know about the seven, and how much I appreciate and understand the rotary, I still keep on looking back at the rx7.... They're also fairly rare where I live, its extremley rare to see the turbo series, all I've seen are the S4 NA's, even then, only about 8 totall in 2 years. Becuase of the rarity thats another reason I love the seven, last thing I want is to be another person, out of the 1million in this city with a 240 or honda civic...
Im seriously thinking of keeping the good parts. The last couple months I've been looking at all kinds of 80-90's sports cars, just deciding what would I like to work on the best. Even after all this time of trying to find something else other than the rotary, I keep on coming back to it. Honestly, I looked at SOOOOO many options, and I think the only one that came close was the MR2 cause its a midship. Still, becuase of what I do know about the seven, and how much I appreciate and understand the rotary, I still keep on looking back at the rx7.... They're also fairly rare where I live, its extremley rare to see the turbo series, all I've seen are the S4 NA's, even then, only about 8 totall in 2 years. Becuase of the rarity thats another reason I love the seven, last thing I want is to be another person, out of the 1million in this city with a 240 or honda civic...
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dont send it to a junkyard.... if u have no other option then donate it to a school .... at least the car isnt a complete waste that way
if its just the intake thats no good why dont you spend some money and buy a used one. If it was me i would just fix the problem cause it sounds like nothing else is wrong ...
if its just the intake thats no good why dont you spend some money and buy a used one. If it was me i would just fix the problem cause it sounds like nothing else is wrong ...
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^lol, "masterful dorifuto" that gets 'em everytime. I'd strip it and sell parts, depending on if you have that much time on your hands. Is it undriveable because it can't pass emissions, or it just has leaks?I'd get a TII body, like you said then build up an engine, it beats swapping a rear end in and suspension when you can just get one from the get go.
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Strip it down, and maybe make a buck or two on a few good used parts, we might need. What I do with a completely stripped chassis, is cut it into pieces, then sell the metal for a couple more bucks.
06-03-05, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
hahaha, yea, but see theres a problem with that, im an honest person
Im seriously thinking of keeping the good parts. The last couple months I've been looking at all kinds of 80-90's sports cars, just deciding what would I like to work on the best. Even after all this time of trying to find something else other than the rotary, I keep on coming back to it. Honestly, I looked at SOOOOO many options, and I think the only one that came close was the MR2 cause its a midship. Still, becuase of what I do know about the seven, and how much I appreciate and understand the rotary, I still keep on looking back at the rx7.... They're also fairly rare where I live, its extremley rare to see the turbo series, all I've seen are the S4 NA's, even then, only about 8 totall in 2 years. Becuase of the rarity thats another reason I love the seven, last thing I want is to be another person, out of the 1million in this city with a 240 or honda civic...
Im seriously thinking of keeping the good parts. The last couple months I've been looking at all kinds of 80-90's sports cars, just deciding what would I like to work on the best. Even after all this time of trying to find something else other than the rotary, I keep on coming back to it. Honestly, I looked at SOOOOO many options, and I think the only one that came close was the MR2 cause its a midship. Still, becuase of what I do know about the seven, and how much I appreciate and understand the rotary, I still keep on looking back at the rx7.... They're also fairly rare where I live, its extremley rare to see the turbo series, all I've seen are the S4 NA's, even then, only about 8 totall in 2 years. Becuase of the rarity thats another reason I love the seven, last thing I want is to be another person, out of the 1million in this city with a 240 or honda civic...
06-03-05, 12:46 AM
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Plague, What the hell are you thinkin'??? Fix the damn thing. Go find a junkyard car as trip parts off that motor. Or buy a blown one and pull the LIM UIM off and stick it on yours! The fact that the block is solid is why you are going in the wrong direction.
You've got alot of time on this board, why would you want to start over. ARE you satisfied that you have learned all you want to about 7 and you want a new challenge?? If thats so then nobody can stop you. But if you are just feeling defeated by the car and the fact that you say it is undriveable..........that is just Bunk. Stick with it, you can change all the emissions **** right back to stock.
You've got alot of time on this board, why would you want to start over. ARE you satisfied that you have learned all you want to about 7 and you want a new challenge?? If thats so then nobody can stop you. But if you are just feeling defeated by the car and the fact that you say it is undriveable..........that is just Bunk. Stick with it, you can change all the emissions **** right back to stock.
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I would keep the engine/tranny/mods and find a decent body RX7 with no engine/tranny or with a blown engine (same price in my mind) for cheap and buy that to swap your engine/etc. into.
I would then do 1 of 2 things.
1. Sell the car whole as a rolling chasis parts car, 300 bucks maybe if you can find someone.
2. Part it out and then haul it away after.
Honestly with a base model rx7, I don't know how much you'll make off of parting it out, probably 200-300 max, but that's if you have a lot of decent/money parts left over after you keep what you want. Selling the car as a rolling chasis parts car, or whatever the person wants to do with it, wont sell for much especially a base model.
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I would then do 1 of 2 things.
1. Sell the car whole as a rolling chasis parts car, 300 bucks maybe if you can find someone.
2. Part it out and then haul it away after.
Honestly with a base model rx7, I don't know how much you'll make off of parting it out, probably 200-300 max, but that's if you have a lot of decent/money parts left over after you keep what you want. Selling the car as a rolling chasis parts car, or whatever the person wants to do with it, wont sell for much especially a base model.
My .02
06-03-05, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
Plague, What the hell are you thinkin'??? Fix the damn thing. Go find a junkyard car as trip parts off that motor. Or buy a blown one and pull the LIM UIM off and stick it on yours! The fact that the block is solid is why you are going in the wrong direction.
You've got alot of time on this board, why would you want to start over. ARE you satisfied that you have learned all you want to about 7 and you want a new challenge?? If thats so then nobody can stop you. But if you are just feeling defeated by the car and the fact that you say it is undriveable..........that is just Bunk. Stick with it, you can change all the emissions **** right back to stock.
You've got alot of time on this board, why would you want to start over. ARE you satisfied that you have learned all you want to about 7 and you want a new challenge?? If thats so then nobody can stop you. But if you are just feeling defeated by the car and the fact that you say it is undriveable..........that is just Bunk. Stick with it, you can change all the emissions **** right back to stock.
My honest first reaction is to just man up and fix it
What exactly have you done that makes it "undriveable"? I mean I've done all the common MOP blockoff, TB mod with no thermowax, full emissions removal, and more and it's still very easily driveable (daily driven to school). The trick is that you just have to set up things for these new intake modifications so that it'll still run well even when cold.
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Plague!? WTF!? You cant be really giving her up.
What was this for then?
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=paint+color
I did this because of YOU!
You made it look so easy and cool I had to do it myself!
So whats wrong with the car?
What was this for then?
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=paint+color
I did this because of YOU!
You made it look so easy and cool I had to do it myself!
So whats wrong with the car?
06-04-05, 01:38 PM
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yeah? I can't think of any intake/emissions mods that cna't be cured by going to the for sale section and spending 50 bucks on a new throttlebody/rats nest..
Cmon, we all know you're not getting out of the game
Not for that, anyway!
Cmon, we all know you're not getting out of the game
Not for that, anyway!
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Shoot...I plan on driving S4's and 5's for quite some time....I would keep ALL the parts....and since you have room to store them that would save you more money by far than what you could make selling that car.....
06-04-05, 04:34 PM
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hahha, im FAR from giving up guys! lol, thanks for your concern, brought a smile to my face.
That TB dissasembly guide was for you guys, the .02 that I got from it was the knowledge and confidence to take it apart and re-assemble it.
I'll never give up the seven.
Completley undrivable means vac leaks that I cannot pinpoint, and would require a whole new intake.
Second, the body is seriously junked. The driver door is smashed in, along with the body between the rear window and door. Me and my dad have tried pulling it out, and patching it up, but it will never look like factory.
Third, I really want a turbo engine! All this NA-turbo conversion stuff is fun, but in the long run just not worth it. Im going to buy a JDM blown TII engine long block and fully restore it back to stock. I was thinking of adding a bigger turbo, FMIC, bla bla bla, but that easily runs at the 10k point on the engine alone. Apparently there is a place up the street from my house that can get the TII JDM engines in for like 2k or something, so my friend says. I don't believe it, im expecting to pay like 3k not including the rebuild kit.
Basically im getting the engine and then fully restoring it real nice, when its finished then i'll look for a TII body wich is far superior than the one I have. Brakes are better, 5 lug (better selection of rims) LSD, etc.
So for now im just going to take ddubs advice and try and sell it as a rolling chasis parts car for about 300$ in calgary.
I'll take the engine and tranny out and keep them. The NA engine that I have, even though I'd love to rebuild it, just isn't worth the 1k$ rebuild kit price... I think I'll totally dissasemble it and clean up all the parts and sell the good ones off individually.
Even if I did rebuild the intake, the body is still ******* junk, and not worth selling as a whole, even with a good running engine IMO.
Theres no way im leaving this place or the rx7, lets just get that clear Like I mentioned, I looked at a shitload of other very respectable 80-90's sports cars and honestly, I can't let go of the seven. heh..
thx for all your advice! more is still welcome
That TB dissasembly guide was for you guys, the .02 that I got from it was the knowledge and confidence to take it apart and re-assemble it.
I'll never give up the seven.
Completley undrivable means vac leaks that I cannot pinpoint, and would require a whole new intake.
Second, the body is seriously junked. The driver door is smashed in, along with the body between the rear window and door. Me and my dad have tried pulling it out, and patching it up, but it will never look like factory.
Third, I really want a turbo engine! All this NA-turbo conversion stuff is fun, but in the long run just not worth it. Im going to buy a JDM blown TII engine long block and fully restore it back to stock. I was thinking of adding a bigger turbo, FMIC, bla bla bla, but that easily runs at the 10k point on the engine alone. Apparently there is a place up the street from my house that can get the TII JDM engines in for like 2k or something, so my friend says. I don't believe it, im expecting to pay like 3k not including the rebuild kit.
Basically im getting the engine and then fully restoring it real nice, when its finished then i'll look for a TII body wich is far superior than the one I have. Brakes are better, 5 lug (better selection of rims) LSD, etc.
So for now im just going to take ddubs advice and try and sell it as a rolling chasis parts car for about 300$ in calgary.
I'll take the engine and tranny out and keep them. The NA engine that I have, even though I'd love to rebuild it, just isn't worth the 1k$ rebuild kit price... I think I'll totally dissasemble it and clean up all the parts and sell the good ones off individually.
Even if I did rebuild the intake, the body is still ******* junk, and not worth selling as a whole, even with a good running engine IMO.
Theres no way im leaving this place or the rx7, lets just get that clear
Like I mentioned, I looked at a shitload of other very respectable 80-90's sports cars and honestly, I can't let go of the seven. heh.. thx for all your advice! more is still welcome
06-05-05, 03:51 PM
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Ok, now we are getting somewhere.
New door....no problem
Side panel dent. You (again) need to go to the junkyard and find any 2nd gen 7 and "CUT" the area you need for you quarter panel out and and the (cut your current dented panel out) weld your new panel in and grind the welds smooth.....paint.
vac leaks?? last resort, use a propane bottle and (don't light it) just let small amounts out and see where your motor sucks it in. The idle will surge when you find the leak. Watch for other open flames and sparks.
3K JDM versus 1K rebuild.......lets see, 1K is "less" than 3K....not sure but I think I am right.
Now in one month you have the 7 in good shape and you can sell it for "some" money (vs. $300) and get the TII you really want.
Sorry to be so hard on you......just a form of tough love. I (we) want to see you succeed
NEXT!
New door....no problem
Side panel dent. You (again) need to go to the junkyard and find any 2nd gen 7 and "CUT" the area you need for you quarter panel out and and the (cut your current dented panel out) weld your new panel in and grind the welds smooth.....paint.
vac leaks?? last resort, use a propane bottle and (don't light it) just let small amounts out and see where your motor sucks it in. The idle will surge when you find the leak. Watch for other open flames and sparks.
3K JDM versus 1K rebuild.......lets see, 1K is "less" than 3K....not sure but I think I am right.
Now in one month you have the 7 in good shape and you can sell it for "some" money (vs. $300) and get the TII you really want.
Sorry to be so hard on you......just a form of tough love. I (we) want to see you succeed
NEXT!
06-06-05, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
hahhaha, thank you for the advice, I may very well act on that welding and door thing.. thanks!
You just can't roll over on us. you've done some cool **** to your car and when you post you usually have something cool to tell us about and it helps us all.
That technique of skinning one car and fixing the dents on another is common in body shops. I saves hours of shaping and sanding. Its the only way to get a big crimped biece of metal out with out bondo'ing the **** out of it.
Did you tyr the propane technique just yet??
OBTW I cut and pasted this to your thread!!
06-07-05, 01:06 AM
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I have an idea for you, might be a hair brained idea maybe not . . .
Buy a JDM Fc then strip it down and put all its parts on an american chassis. ALL its parts. . . .
That'd be hot, alot of work but you could build it from the ground up, nice and fresh, fresh bodywork. Rebuild clean/inspect everything before installation. . . alot of tedious work but it would pay off big time IMO. . . I'd do it if i could find someone to get ahold of a car, and ship it.
Buy a JDM Fc then strip it down and put all its parts on an american chassis. ALL its parts. . . .
That'd be hot, alot of work but you could build it from the ground up, nice and fresh, fresh bodywork. Rebuild clean/inspect everything before installation. . . alot of tedious work but it would pay off big time IMO. . . I'd do it if i could find someone to get ahold of a car, and ship it.