Andrew.

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I just finished putting on my intake manifold and everything back on today and when i went to start the car i pulled the egi fuse and got a weird whine when i was cranking it, then i put it back in and it starts YES! 3k, dies down, down dead. So i crank again and it gives me a weird whine when cranking and doesn't start back up, its got voltage and everything but doesn't want to start, heres what i did to it:

All vacuum lines changed including spider
SS Omp lines
Rebuilt injectors
Firewall heater hose
Fuel Filter with new fuel lines and clamps
K & N A OEM filter
OEM Radiator Cap
Coolant Hoses
Upper & Lower Radiator Hoses
Castrol GTX 20W50
OEM Filter
New Fuel Lines
Put on new intake manifold because i broke my old one threading the bolts wrong.
New gasket for intake manifold
new 6 port actuator gaskets
new gasket between those 2

The only thing i got confused on was setting my throttle cable, the thing has so much play right now and same on the gas pedal and i still can't get it right, also the front 3 vacuum lines on the upper intake manifold i think i might have mixed them up, is there a order for those? I'm ataching some pictures to further discuss the things I said. Any suggestions?

usmcjsy

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So your saying it does not wanna turn over..? Well if thats the case I dunno. I see you said you got it started once so if it does turn over but does not wanna start I would say double check your injector plugs. That happend to me once I did not have it on quite all the way.

Andrew.

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Well by turnover you mean actually start? or the motor cranking? It cranks but doesn't start, i have a vid on my digi cam but i don't know how to upload it. Thanks for the help i'll check it tomorow

-Andrew

Mint87RX7

also since you just took apart a mojority of your intake, you had to unplug a lot of stuff, go through and check all of the connectors to things like TPS BAC and especially your airflow meter, i always forget to plug it in, it will start once then wont start again. aounds like the afm could be the problem

ddub

nvm just read your original post a bit more.

Andrew.

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^Yeah i' checked your site for reference but my motor is bone stock lol so i have all vacuum lines

usmcjsy

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Well if it turns over but does not start I would check the AFM is plugged in the I would check the EGI fuse. After that I would check injector plugs. Somtimes it is the dumbest thing, or somthing lools like it is plugged in but its not. Like my injector one time, the injector was plugged in but the plug was so old the wires were pushed out of the plug but you could not tell unless you took the loug off the injector and looked at it. Anyway it could be a lot of things. Chances are somthing is not plugged in right. Or you have one massive vac leak.

Andrew.

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afm is plugged in egi unplugged cranked replugged still no go, injectors are on but the harness connector is cracked, no vacuum leaks whatsoever but i have a feeling i crossed the lines on the upper manifold on, i just need some reference pictures, and does anyone know how to tighten the stupid throttle cable, man its pissing me off. all connectors are plugged because i followed the main harness and checked. I have a video but i can't seem to get it off my digi cam, and i smell fuel when i'm cranking it.

Andrew.

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1st Video Thanks to felixwankel88

http://www.club-swat.com/~felixwankel88/fcnostartandrew


2nd Video

http://www.club-swat.com/~felixwankel88/fcnoworkiw

The Spyder

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Double check your fuel lines and your tranny housing to firewall ground cable. Its a single 12 guage black wire that runs from the top of the tranny to the passenger side of the firewall next to the windsheild wiper motor.

Andrew.

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I remember it being loose last time but i forgot to re tighten it, i'll check it, thanks. did you see the vid? was i getting enough volts to start the motor up?

-Andrew

HAILERS

The top hose goes to the oil injectors spider.

The second hose goes to the fuel injector air bleeds.

The bottom hose is the only one that gets vacuum FROM the dynamic chamber and it goes to the pipe that feeds the solenoid rack.

Loosen the jamnuts on the throttle cable (shown in your picute) and adjust in the appropriate direction, and then tighten them down.

Make sure the fuel hose from the fuel filter attaches to the most fwd fuel pipe on the engine.

There's a free, online, factory service manual online or a Haynes manual at the auto store.

Andrew.

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Marry me hailers! by the way the second hose, "fuel injector air bleeds" if you follow it down to where you connect it, it splits with the fuel hose for the 2ndary fuel rail right?

HAILERS

On a series four, the fuel injector airbleed nipple sticks straight up b/t the two oil injectors that sit close together on the intake manifold. It's been a while since I looked at my series four n/a, but that's where I remember the nipple. On the two n/a cars I owned, that hose did not split off and go to anything else. You have to remove the dynamic chamber to connect it to the nipple. Remember that the large top hose and the next one down, do not pull a vacuum FROM the dynamic chamber. The vacuum comes from the direction of the spider or the fuel injector air bleed nipple. Both, in my opinion are a part and parcel of the idle air bypass system (my name for them and the bac). If you block off one or both, it will effect the idle.

If you swap the bottom two hose, you'll fudge your idle up.

I understood this to be a 88 n/a car. Right? Yeah.

Andrew.

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Ok, those hoses were messed up, battery needed a charge, it fired right up, hits 3k then puts down unless i stay on the gas, then i get a WEIRD sound when it dies down. Usually if i have a vacuum leak, and i didn't put some hoses on, i tried to get on the gas and it still died. But on this i could maintain the car alive with the gas, and the throttle cable STILL won't get tight and i have it all the way to the left. I have more vids, pictures to come.

-Andrew

Andrew.

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Ok, pics on and i have a vid, just need a host since dustin is asleep. In person the car gave off the weirdest whine, undescribable but in this video i can't hear it.

Andrew.

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I still have freeplay but not as much, and the car maintained its life a Bit more and still gave off the weird whine. Anyone?

-Andrew

RylAssassin

dude it still sounds like theres some huge vac leak, or a vac line is in the wrong place.

You need to get your hands on a FSM and follow those lines to where there supposed to go. Its the only thing it could be from what you describe.

By the way im doing almost the exact same **** your doing on my car (TII) but i havent gotten everything back together yet. Your starting to scare me.

Andrew.

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I'll rip apart things tommorow, don't be scared to do it i bet its something simple i messed up on, you should be fine, what did you do to it?

jacobcartmill

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dude, your throttle cable is all the way loose instead of tight (you're backwards)... start with fixing that and keeping the car running and your other problems might surface.

Andrew.

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^Yeah i figured that out when i started looking at the throttle cable and wondering, its still loose and its on all the way though! Doing that helped maintain the life of the car a bit more. Vids are going to be up in a couple of minutes.

Andrew.

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Vid 1- Before I set my throttle cable which still has freeplay, i had to keep on the gas or it would almost instantly die

http://www.elit3.com/upload.php?file=IM000314.MPG

Vid 2- After it was somewhat set, note i could walk to the engine in a rush, if you put the volume up you can kinda hear the weird whine

http://www.elit3.com/upload.php?file=IM000339.MPG