Help! Before I drive this car into the water!
05-03-11, 09:01 PM
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Help! Before I drive this car into the water!
If anyone looks at my previous posts this will make sense. New motor mounts, tranny mount, starter, ac, power steering, cruise, drive shaft, tranny, brakes wheels and tires, cooling lines radiator caps and too much too complain about. Drove the car 45 min or so. Never drove with low oil pressure or overheated the motor, ever! It has compression and oil pressure, new plugs and tested the coil packs and battery. New and as I learned leading and trailing plugs. And the motor wont start!!!!!!!!! I have not tried to push start the car it's just me and my wife. However I did have to push start the car a week and a half before that and it fired right up? I have checked vac lines and traced everything I can. I have spark and can smell the gas after turning over a few times. Any darn ideas here? I have the cleanest Rex that drives great and wont start? Fuses seem good and harness is tight. Please give me some input before I blow a fuse. I have compression so I know the apex seals are good. The car doesn't smoke. I swear I'm just missing something here. In a few days I feel I night loose my cool. I know the space shuttle didn't launch, but if you look to the east you'll see a mushroom cloud when I explode! I love to hate my Rex! We have a abusive relationship. She is needy...
05-03-11, 09:02 PM
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For the love of pete help
If anyone looks at my previous posts this will make sense. New motor mounts, tranny mount, starter, ac, power steering, cruise, drive shaft, tranny, brakes wheels and tires, cooling lines radiator caps and too much too complain about. Drove the car 45 min or so. Never drove with low oil pressure or overheated the motor, ever! It has compression and oil pressure, new plugs and tested the coil packs and battery. New and as I learned leading and trailing plugs. And the motor wont start!!!!!!!!! I have not tried to push start the car it's just me and my wife. However I did have to push start the car a week and a half before that and it fired right up? I have checked vac lines and traced everything I can. I have spark and can smell the gas after turning over a few times. Any darn ideas here? I have the cleanest Rex that drives great and wont start? Fuses seem good and harness is tight. Please give me some input before I blow a fuse. I have compression so I know the apex seals are good. The car doesn't smoke. I swear I'm just missing something here. In a few days I feel I night loose my cool. I know the space shuttle didn't launch, but if you look to the east you'll see a mushroom cloud when I explode! I love to hate my Rex! We have a abusive relationship. She is needy...
05-03-11, 09:38 PM
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If you smell fuel it is FLOODED..
look up deflood and Welcome to Rotary Engines.they do tend to flood..often.(a quirk they encounter)
But Don't DROWN IT!
look up deflood and Welcome to Rotary Engines.they do tend to flood..often.(a quirk they encounter)
But Don't DROWN IT!
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05-03-11, 09:57 PM
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You're killin me here. I know! No punn intended. That's what I don't get. Right when turn the key I start to smell the gas. A few days before it stopped working I was In Orlando traffic and smelled gas! From the A.C. vents while in the car with the with windows up. In nine months and 15,000 miles I've put on the car it's never happened. I have spark and fuel thats what I'm getting at. You know what, I guess I need to stop complaining about the car. I'll unplug the fuel pump and turn the motor with no plugs to see if it clears and see what happens. I'll post the video of the car skimming across water...
05-03-11, 10:04 PM
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Check for fuel leaks just in case. Depending on how bad a leak is and where it is the car could still run, but potentially poorly. I sprung a fuel leak on top of the engine once while it was idling and it made it run like crap for a few moments then it died and started a small fire.
05-03-11, 10:50 PM
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i personally think every dd fc should have a fuel cut switch installed. cuz it seems like someday you're going to need it. my money is also on flooding. i'd do the big involved de-flooding procedure, the one where you squirt some oil (not atf) into the plug holes to help build compression.
on a side note i'd like to point out that the fc is light enough that one person can push start it. you look like a retard with a busted *** hooptie, but you can do it
on a side note i'd like to point out that the fc is light enough that one person can push start it. you look like a retard with a busted *** hooptie, but you can do it
05-04-11, 08:08 AM
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Did you try the entire deflooding procedure?
Pull the plugs.
Pull the 2 fuses closest to the engine.
Crank the engine over for about 5-10 secs - a couple of times.
Inject a couple of teaspoons of Morthers Mystery Oil into the spark plug holes.
Re-install the fuses
Make sure battery is fully or charged - or use a helper battery
Try to start the engine.
If it does not start and you begin to smell lots of gas again - REPEAT
This is what I remember, I haven't had to do it for a couple of years.
You can find more info by searching.
Pull the plugs.
Pull the 2 fuses closest to the engine.
Crank the engine over for about 5-10 secs - a couple of times.
Inject a couple of teaspoons of Morthers Mystery Oil into the spark plug holes.
Re-install the fuses
Make sure battery is fully or charged - or use a helper battery
Try to start the engine.
If it does not start and you begin to smell lots of gas again - REPEAT
This is what I remember, I haven't had to do it for a couple of years.
You can find more info by searching.
05-04-11, 09:28 AM
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Could be leaky injectors causing it to flood when the fuel pressure comes up
Are you sure you have a good spark? I would unplug the fuel pump in the back hatch. Pull all the plugs, crank it over to get the fuel out of the housings. Walk away for 10-15 to let the fuel vapor clear. Then hook up a spark plug to the plug wire, touch it to something grounded and crank it over. Make sure you have an nice spark Also get one of those hand held remote start triggers from your parts store. Makes it really easy to crank the motor over while you are watching stuff under the hood.
Also, is the motor cranking over fast? Rotaries like a nice fast crank speed to start up. If your starter motor or battery is getting bad it could crank slow and not fire.
Are you sure you have a good spark? I would unplug the fuel pump in the back hatch. Pull all the plugs, crank it over to get the fuel out of the housings. Walk away for 10-15 to let the fuel vapor clear. Then hook up a spark plug to the plug wire, touch it to something grounded and crank it over. Make sure you have an nice spark Also get one of those hand held remote start triggers from your parts store. Makes it really easy to crank the motor over while you are watching stuff under the hood.
Also, is the motor cranking over fast? Rotaries like a nice fast crank speed to start up. If your starter motor or battery is getting bad it could crank slow and not fire.
05-04-11, 09:32 AM
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You should also be checking around the Engine just to make sure that the Pulsation Dampener( looks like a bell,it is on the fuel rail) is not leaking.
They can blow the diaphragm on them and start to leak.
The Pulsation dampener is a small part,but can cause big problems(like leak gas and cause an engine fire).The purpose is just to ease the flow of the fuel when the injectors open and close.So the fuel doesn't surge into the Injectors.
They can blow the diaphragm on them and start to leak.
The Pulsation dampener is a small part,but can cause big problems(like leak gas and cause an engine fire).The purpose is just to ease the flow of the fuel when the injectors open and close.So the fuel doesn't surge into the Injectors.
05-04-11, 09:57 PM
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I'd kill myself trying. And besides, I'll even wear the same thing flipping wrenches with you. I have a new set of ratchet wrenches I'll let you play with. Nothing gets more romantic than that! Thanks for the reply. I really do appreciate all the help and advise I get here. Just when I think I've learned about this darn car I find someone else has been more frustrated than I!
05-04-11, 10:00 PM
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Funny you say that. I smell fuel and from a small resonator leak in the down piping there was some raw fuel on the ground when I had to push the car back into the garage. I am sure though its from the overflow and have checked over and over for fuel lines ect for leaks.
05-04-11, 10:12 PM
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Yea main, after testing all coil packs and replacing all leading and trailing plugs they light up like a xmas tree. I'm going to replace all underhood fuses then run the charge on the system and vacate the fuel like said. I found after reading there are 40 amp fuses in the 80 amp holder bolted in. Then the 30 amp has a 40 ect ect. I thought (read all my headaches) I went through this entire car from headlight to tranny and every mount known. Then there was more... The car looks so sexy and misleading it's killing me. I get stopped at every gas station (when it runs) I just done want to get rid of it. Anyways, I'll repost my updates and be holding a "Family Rotary Bbq" at a local park for those that help. Thank you very much!
05-05-11, 07:32 PM
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Thank you everyone! New plugs, fuses, un flooded th motor. Still wouldn't start! Found through the craze after uninstalling plugs several times and using a syringe with a fuel line to get .75 oz of marvel mystery oil in the lower chambers I forgot to put a darn fuse in and after all the darn prep it started faster than it ever did! I'm back with my love hate relationship Rex and never been happier! There will be a BBQ at my house in winter springs here in sunny Fl for you chaps that helped me out! BYOB everyone. Everyone from the site is welcome.
05-06-11, 12:14 AM
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sometimes my 87 will not start and i just let the cluch out and push it back in and it usually starts. sometimes i have to wait ten minutes and try again with the pedal on the floor, then it will always start