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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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HELP - Almost all my warning lights are stuck ON!

I tried a search for this but couldn't find what I'm looking for... I did find why my clock isn't working... but here's my other problem... ('86 GX)

All of my warning lights are stuck on except the seatbelt and emergency brake lights... is this a fuse? If so which one. If not, does it relate to the clock problem? The clock was busted for a while, but the warning light problem just happened today!

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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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Not sure if this is your problem, but my alternator belt broke and that happened to me.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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All warning lights with the exception of the Emergency Brake and Seatbelt?

Maybe those bulbs are burnt out and your charging system Is toast. Happen to me. Alternator Belt snapped, along the highway, all the lights lite up except Emergency Brake light. Thats when I thought "tighter Is better". Turned out a belt for the Alternator was needed and a new bulb for the E.B. Done.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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All warning lights with the exception of the Emergency Brake and Seatbelt?

... "tighter Is better". Turned out a belt for the Alternator was needed and a new bulb for the E.B. Done.
...I just had a tune up done a few days ago... I would assume they tightened all of my belts, etc. Maybe they put it a little too tight! Very well could be the problem. I'll have to check it out. THANKS!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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UPDATE*** Took the car to the Mazda dealership this morning... they tell me it's the alternator that is shot. Okay, I can believe that, since I had to boost the car two times since it happened. What seems really funny to me is that this all happened within days of a regular dealership tune-up... IS THIS FISHY?!? (The alternator belt was fine)
A new alternator installed will cost me $370 CDN... is this reasonable?!?
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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You can get a used one for a lot cheaper.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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or get one from an fd and mod it to fit, better charging
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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Alright... new update... they found a locally rebuilt alternator for $170CDN... (+labor) It's in and they're letting run to make sure it's charging okay.
I'm still curious if this has anything to do with a #$^%ed up tune-up.
ALSO... could the fact that I'm running two amplifiers directly off the battery have anything to do with this?... more strain on the alternator??

Thx.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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More strain on your battery more likely
you really should move at least one over to alternator
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Alternator feeds the battery. It won't help.

It is more strain on your electrical system. Just be sure to have a lot of good grounds, and a re-wired FD alternator would've been a better choice.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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True, but the battery is harder to charge when there is too much stuff hooked off of it, as opposed to running things from alternator; at least an amp that you probably wouldn't want to run while car is turned off anyways
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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It's harder to charge when there's too much stuff hooked to it??? You're supplying amperage to the things attached to the battery... durrr.

I've NEVER heard of ANYONE running something from an alternator. And before you say you have a friend running an amp off of one... Alma Gates runs 4 Ohio Generator Alternators, ALL to batterys (and an asston of them). She has 42 1000watt amps, and has held dozens of records through the years.

Beside the point, BOOMER, you should have bought a used FD alternator, it would've been better for you application.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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**** that BOOMER you should of installed that yourself in addition to buying one used cheaper

Amps KILL the alternator/batterys i know cuz two of my buddys had systems in there 7's and there alternators and batterys were always going bad. You know if you want to run amps make sure to get capacitors (cylindricle looking devices seen in most cars with amps to not drain your car battery normaly known as "Caps" there around 100 or so) Good luck!!
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Capacitors don't really do that much. Sure they fill in the gaps where your electrical system can't put out immediate power, but as soon as they're discharged (whoich they shortly will be) they're just another drain on the electrical system.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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Just picked up the car...
Now here's another question - The car's running REALLY smooth. There was a slight (how do I explain this) 'shudder' in the idle... even after the tune up... Could a bad alternator have that 'shuddering' affect on the idle???

RylAssasin - I wish I had the know how/tools to do it myself... as well as the time... I work way too much... and I need the car to get back and forth between jobs...
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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My car did the same damn thing! Havent figured out what it was yet, but my alternator is charging fine.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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Dont pay any shop to put your alternator on, there are 2 bolts to remove, and it takes about 5 minutes...... Save yourself some $$$ and do it yourself
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Sounds like you got scammed
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 08:00 AM
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...2 bolts to remove... but what about the belt?!?...and the tension of the belt... hoe do you do all of that???
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 08:11 AM
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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Oh, and why couldn't you just loosen the belt to the point of it falling off, remove the alternator, put the new one on, and re-install the belt? No need to remover anything but the alternator. (slipped my mind for a few... seconds)
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by RylAssassin
You know if you want to run amps make sure to get capacitors (cylindricle looking devices seen in most cars with amps to not drain your car battery normaly known as "Caps" there around 100 or so) Good luck!!
Caps are nothing more than band aids for a poorly designed stereo system, or weak vehicle electrical system.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Liquid, here is some info from a couple different sites

"The purpose of the charging system is to provide the electrical energy needed to charge the battery and to power all the electrical components and systems on the automobile. When the engine is not running, the battery provides this electrical energy. When the engine is running, the charging system takes over. "
"If the power system appears to be working correctly, you may need to upgrade your alternator to handle the large current demands of your sound system. If you are always listening to your stereo at a fairly high volume (assume your amp is drawing 20A), and you use the heater, headlights, heated rear screen etc. you can get to the point when the alternator can no longer provide enough current to effectively supply the car and charge the main battery. So the battery is always supplementing the alternator's current supply, and slowly (but surely) dies a relatively quick death."

durrr
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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A similar warning light problem. First all my fluid levels are good. But, sometimes, the add coolant buzzer goes off for a second-or continuously until I shut the car off. Then, if it's not the coolant light, the brake light will come on. It's not the parking brake switch. But, I've got to tell you, it ALL started after putting on a used power steering pump (that still doesn't work). To avoid having the ps buzzer go off until I can fix that, I pulled the fuse. With that fuse pulled, the rear window defog light comes on (but I really don't think any power is going to the deog-the amps don't change on the gage like they do when the fuze is in and I turn the deog on.) Anygreat ideas?? Thanks.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Dont buy a factory unit. Buy either a used fd alternator or some other one with a higher out put.
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