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Old 10-20-05, 01:03 AM
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head fuse burns out?

Well i traked the wiring on the headlights and i couldn't fine anything shorting.

I went to turn on the lights and then no lights and they went up and were stuck up. Their was alot of current going threw the head fuse. I dissconnected the dimmer relay and now their is less current. I fisrt dissconnected the lights and thier was still alot of current, enough to blow the fuse. I can't find a place where they are shorting out. Could it be a relay? I don't think its the headlights.

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Do you have any lights working? My car did somewhat the same thing a while back and it turns out that the headlight switch itself shorted out.
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no lights and they don't come on they just burn up the fuse right away
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does the radio work?
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the radio draws it power from the headlights
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an update i didn't dissconnect the headlights i dissconnected the motors for the lights. I dissconnected the dimmer relay and put in another fuse and the radio didn't work
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how did the fuse do?
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its fine didn't burn out it seems that if the dimmer relay is unplugged things are ok.
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but no power to really anything so i guess its still a little hard to tell
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I would say get that replaced with one from a wrecking yard that way it will be cheap
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the dimmer relay?
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If you pull the Dimmer Relay, then there is no path for the 12v to the headlights.

How about pulling the plugs off the two headlights and leaving the Dimmer Relay in place and see what happens? Then maybe plug one headlight in and see what happens and then the other headlight to see what happens.

Or pull the plug off the Dimmer Relay and jumper a wire b/t one of the Red/Green wires on the plug to the Red /Black wire on that connector. The lights should come on and you've just bypassed the dimmer Relay. If the fuse does not blow, then replace the Dimmer Relay.

Make sure you have a 30amp fuse in there for the headlights.

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Alright i replaced the dimmer relay and the light switch and its still blowing the fuse. When i turn the lights on the fuse blows but when i put on another fuse with everything still on the lights turn on. So the one time it blows is when the lights flip up and come on.

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please help i don't know what else to try i can't find where it is shorting, i havn't checked the radio other than that i'm lost
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Try this: As you know, there is a **** above the light sw that controls the headlights going up/down. Turn that **** til the headlight come up. THEN turn the headlight switch to ON and see if the fuse blows or not.

Trust me, there IS a **** that will make the headlight assy come up without the lights coming on.

I think you have a chaffing condition with the retractable light assy. The retractor motors have NOTHING to do with the fuse blowing, BUT I think when the light assy is coming up, the headlight wires are touching the metal chassis (ground) and that's causing the fuse to blow.

THAT is why I ask you to make the headlight assy come up with that seperate ****, THEN turn the headlight switch ot ON.

Apparently you didn't do what I suggested in my first post. Oh well, good luck. There is a free download of the factory service manuals wiring schematic available. Look in the FAQ section of this forum. New switch was a waste of dough.
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Alright, well i ddn't waste any money cause i have a parts car. I thought what you suggested was about how to see if the dimmer switch was bad. I'll try what you said I had a similar idea but ran out of fuses and nothing is open now.

Sorry if i frustrate you, the advice is very much apreciated.
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Alright well i did what you said and the lights come on just fine, i've already replaced the dimmer relay with one from another car could both of them be bad? Should i check anything else?
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sorry btw the red/black and the red/green it does blow the fuse
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so i'm guessing from the wiring diagram this is telling me that something is being groung btw the relay and the lights? I can get the lights to turn on with red/green and red/white. Is this correct? Should i then start tracing and undoing tape on the red/black?
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Yeah. The Red/White would seem to be touching something. YOu could disconnect the connector at the Dimmer Relay and then disconnect both connectors at the headlights. Then put the meter on ohms and connect the positive lead to the Red/White socket in the Dimmer Relay's connector and the negative lead of the meter to a known good ground, like the batt negative post. The meter should read open/no continuity. If it does not then move the harness with the Red/White wires and see if you can make the meter go open.

Yeah. Bottom line is the red/white is grounding out. I'd suspect the area of the harness inside the headlight assy that goes up/down.
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ok i'll try that thanks hailers
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ok i did what you said and i got 12 volts from the red/white wire, i'm going to put a conector btw the red white and the red green so at least i have lights to drive with. I'll search for the problems more tomarrow.
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Well i tryed it today when i wasn't in such a hurry and with the power off thier is no resistance btw the red/white wire and the ground with the power on i get minus 500 ohms or so. I also get resistance/voltage, from the from the 2 red green wires. So i'm not too sure what that tells me.
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Did you remove the plugs from the headlights? You need to. Dimmer relay plug off the relay also.
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yep removed them all


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