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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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hard to shift when hot

Hi all,
I have 87 T2, it is hard to shift after around 30 min of driving. easy to shift when cold. Shifting become notchy and stiff when hot. Even in neutral going side to side is stiff. Its nothing related with the clutch because it would be the same even if i turn off the engine.
i previously had Liqui Moly 75w90 and i change it out to royal purple synchromax and still feels the same, easy when cold hard when hot.
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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the oil in the shifter is not the trans oil. seperate chambers
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 09:31 PM
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The oil in the shifter is filled up, I guess I should change it out and see what happen
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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hard to shift when hot

Replace oil in the shifter housing and transportation oil to 75w140, still hard to shift when hot, starting to think the tranny is going
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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Have you adjusted your clutch pedal? If you don't have enough play in the clutch pedal the clutch can become partially engaged as the fluid in the master cylinder warms up.

A pissed off tranny is really going to hate you when cold but hate you less when warm. Your situation directly points to a clutch hydraulic problem, as your issue is the opposite.

Release the lock nut at the clutch pedal adjuster and back the clutch pedal off a bit. If that helps then keep backing off. The clutch should be fully engaged by 3/4 pedal travel and only start to engage at all at 1/2 pedal travel.

I can almost guarantee you this is your problem.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
Have you adjusted your clutch pedal? If you don't have enough play in the clutch pedal the clutch can become partially engaged as the fluid in the master cylinder warms up.

A pissed off tranny is really going to hate you when cold but hate you less when warm. Your situation directly points to a clutch hydraulic problem, as your issue is the opposite.

Release the lock nut at the clutch pedal adjuster and back the clutch pedal off a bit. If that helps then keep backing off. The clutch should be fully engaged by 3/4 pedal travel and only start to engage at all at 1/2 pedal travel.

I can almost guarantee you this is your problem.
but its the same even when the car is off, the shifter is hard to move.
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 07:29 AM
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try leaving the oil out of the shifter area, mine's just greased up, but not filled.. maybe double check for binding in the shifter.
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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after one night pissed off at it, slamming the shifter into gear, i think i fixed it, i guess you can fix thing by hitting it haha. been driving around for a few days and it is behaving, easy shifts
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 05:12 PM
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after one night pissed off at it, slamming the shifter into gear, i think i fixed it, i guess you can fix thing by hitting it haha. been driving around for a few days and it is behaving, easy shifts
That's not really a good thing...
Did you check for remnants of shifter bushings or the spring in before you added fluid to the shifter?
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 11:05 PM
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shifter housing is nice and clean with fresh oil
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