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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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is it hard changing out end links???

well a while back I got up under my car for the 1k time and for the first time noticed an enlink that was disconnected do to the fact the bushing wasn't in the link anymore so I went ahead and bought some off of ebay (racing beat) Now I'm wondering if this is something I should have someone do or can I do this myself???? Will this through off alignment or if I line it up with the old ones will it be ok? The only reason I'm asking is because I'm a complete newb when it comes to suspension so any input or tips would be great! Thanks.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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What end link are you talking about???? the Sway bar??? If so.. get yer *** under there and do it yourself... no biggie.

The racing beat sway bar links are adjustable.. just set them equal to the factoy length at first and then you can mess with it later to help offset the driver weight on one side.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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yeah they are the front swaybar enlinks, so its pretty easy??? Do you need to take off the tires??? Thanks man!
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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yeah they are the front swaybar enlinks, so its pretty easy??? Do you need to take off the tires??? Thanks man!
You really should put the front of the car up in the air to do it.. ... and you HAVE to do it with BOTH tires off the ground or you have pressure on the sway bar from the tire that is on the ground.

you MAY have to find a really thin wrench (14 mm i think) to hold the bolt while you take the nut off the stock links cause there isn't much space between the bar and the link... but you'll see what i mean when you get at it.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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ok thanks I"m going to try and do this tomorrow and if all goes well hopefully it will get rid of the clunk I'm having
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Thought if you had the car in the air with the wheels hanging free, the lower arms would drop and created force and "pull" the stabilizer down. I've always kept the front wheels loaded. Get the car up on ramps, so stabilizer would be in the normal position, no pressure, and go from there.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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hum......so witch should I do?
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Thought if you had the car in the air with the wheels hanging free, the lower arms would drop and created force and "pull" the stabilizer down. I've always kept the front wheels loaded. Get the car up on ramps, so stabilizer would be in the normal position, no pressure, and go from there.
True there is "pull" down on it. But nothing a little bit of arm strength can't fix. I installed my RB sway bar and end links with the car in the air. Wasn't hard at all, though i did get a lot of dirt in my eyes. =/
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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cool thanks!
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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True there is "pull" down on it. But nothing a little bit of arm strength can't fix. I installed my RB sway bar and end links with the car in the air. Wasn't hard at all, though i did get a lot of dirt in my eyes. =/
I forgot to mention that with the wheels off the ground you can put a jack under the wheel you are working on to get the suspension into a totally neutral position when installing the link.

Also.. I will not work under ramps... my buddys dad in high school was killed when the van he was working on rolled off the ramps and crushed him under the car.. he was under there for a half an hour gurgling blood until someone found him.. he died on the way to the hospital.. having all four corners on Jackstands, at least, remove the "did i remember to chock the wheels and put the e-brake" fear in the back of my head
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
I forgot to mention that with the wheels off the ground you can put a jack under the wheel you are working on to get the suspension into a totally neutral position when installing the link.

Also.. I will not work under ramps... my buddys dad in high school was killed when the van he was working on rolled off the ramps and crushed him under the car.. he was under there for a half an hour gurgling blood until someone found him.. he died on the way to the hospital.. having all four corners on Jackstands, at least, remove the "did i remember to chock the wheels and put the e-brake" fear in the back of my head
yes... always take precautionary measures... don't be stupid people.... i had my car well stabilized with jack stands, wheel chocks and everything i could find.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Also pull the ebrake and put the car in first gear just in case the ebrake fails.

So how does installing the swaybars neutral affect handling? With preloading? Without preloading? I'm assuming it will affect stiffness and oversteer and understeer but not exactly sure.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Let's face it, freak accidents occur. Seen ramps collapse, hydraulic jacks give out, car fall off jack stands, car catches fire while working on the fuel system, cars being driven into a wall pinning a mechanic because the driver thought he was in reverse, but in first, fingers cut off because the mechanic thought the person in the driver's seat hear him say don't start the engine, but he didn't hear the command, etc.
Can never be too careful. That goes without saying.
However, be very careful if you do use a jack under the tire to compress the suspension. As there is not the normal load on that corner when elevated, you may need to jack it up quite high to compress the suspension. Better to leave it on the ramps with e brake on and in gear. FYI I've make ramps out of 2x6's, placed on edge and bolted together, and with stop blocks. They are very sturdy and will fit under the factory spoiler S5TII. I can't fit any of my 3 Walker jacks, or my Sears, under the front without first riding up on the ramps, or slightly jacking the vehicle up from the side.
Good Luck!
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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damn you guys are scaring me! I just might have it done.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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nah dude... do it yourself. ^_^
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