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Old 10-03-05, 09:12 AM
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Get your meter out and see if you have 12vdc on pins 3C, 3E, 3F and 3H. Key to ON. If your ECU wasn't grounded you wouldn't have spark either. You have spark.

Also jumper the fuel pump check connector and turn the key to ON. Listen for fuel flowing thru the fuel rails. It should. You should hear the flow thru the fuel rail back to the fuel tank. If in doubt, remove the return line with the fuel pump check connector in place and the key to ON. Fuel should flow out the return line FROM the engine. The return line is the aft fuel line.
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
Get your meter out and see if you have 12vdc on pins 3C, 3E, 3F and 3H. Key to ON. If your ECU wasn't grounded you wouldn't have spark either. You have spark.

Also jumper the fuel pump check connector and turn the key to ON. Listen for fuel flowing thru the fuel rails. It should. You should hear the flow thru the fuel rail back to the fuel tank. If in doubt, remove the return line with the fuel pump check connector in place and the key to ON. Fuel should flow out the return line FROM the engine. The return line is the aft fuel line.

I sent you a PM on nearly the same thing. You wont always hear the fuel pump but you can atleast check power to it and its relay. You will also need to check for fuel pressure..it all this checks out and the ECU is ok...check your injectors.

Did you install new injector clips or they the stock ones? If they are new...since the old ones are crap...check polarity. If they are old...make sure they are not cracked or corroded.
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these are new injectors. my friend dsent those out then wen he put dem back in he crashed his car like a month later. i have more mods den he had on his car.
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I'm talking about jumpering the Fuel Pump Check Connector and listening for the fuel flowing thru the rails with the key to ON. I can hear it and if I can hear it anybody should be able to hear the flow of fuel thru the rail going back to the fuel tank.

I have no doubts that your fuel pump is pumping. The question is, is the fuel passing thru the fuel rail and returning to the fuel tanK? If you don't hear the flow of fuel in the fuel rails, then you have a blockage, most likely before the fuel reaches the injectors. Or the fuel lines are on backwards at the engine. Either because a mistake was made or there is a JSPEC engine in the car that is made *** backwards from the USA fuel rails.

You NEED to check for 12vdc at the ECU's small plug on the pins I mentioned, if you find that you have flow thru the fuel rails. PUlling the pressure line off the engine and having it spray is NOT the same thing I'm talking about. You have to determine if the fuel is FLOWING thru the fuel rail back to the tank. The fuel DOES NOT JUST ARRIVE AT THE FUEL RAIL UNTIL THE INJECTORS OPEN. It flow constantly thru and back to the tank. Round and round it goes.

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HAILERS.... I was referring to him, not you...sorry for the confusion.
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Exclamation Any Ideas???????????

Hey earlier today I pulled off the upper intake manifold and went straight to the injectors, now i pulled out the primary injectors and i gave the injectors constant power from the battery and they were working. the metal peice on the bottom was going in and out, so i guess thats a sign that the injectors are working. Now after that I tried seeing if the injector clips were giving any type of power to the injectors and there was no type of power going to them because I have an injector clip tester it has a light in it that lights up when there is power going to the injectors. But there wasn't any what so ever. Any Ideas???????
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Timing? are your spark plugs even wet?
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my plugs arent wet at all
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Well if your plugs arent wet then its def a fuel problem! You said you had fuel passed the fuel filter correct? I'd say try and poor a lil bit of fuel down the LIM and see if it fires. Should work, are you gettin fuel to your fuel rail?
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Did you swich the feed and return lines? All grounds good? AFM connected and level? Cas connected? CAS good?
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injectors should have constant 12V to one side with the key on (ground measured from reference, not from other side of injector)

the other wire on the injectors is a switched ground from the ecu.

if they have no 12v, then its probably a fuse or smething simple.

if you crank the car, you should hear the injectors clicking open and closed.

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Exclamation still no good?!?!?!??!??!!!

I switched the lines before i did anything and it didnt work. i dont know why my clips arent getting any power. my injectors work. my ecu should be good. besides i have two that i am going back and forth with. fuel is getting to the lines i hear it. it's getting to the fuel rail but the injectors arent getting that signal to fire. my afm is plugged in and should be good. i got everything off of a running car. this motor ran a 14.6 with less mods than i have. i really dont understand whats going on, but you guys gotta know that i am fed up,tired, and broke because of this car. I really dont know what else to say. i've tried everything. But hey who knows like you guys said before, could be something simple. Thanks alot guys but anymore suggestions???? Please.....
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also what fuse are you talking about PATMAN??? where would it be???
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there are several fuses. just check all the under hood fuses, and the engine fuse in the inside fuesebox. i think there might also be a fuel fuse or an injector fuse in there too, i dont remember.

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I have the exact problem except i get a short current for a second to the injectors. Well im thinking it is the wiring harness, so i am just going to redo all of the wiring since mine is sorta looking old. Ill tell you if it works.
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