nitroracer

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HES out!!
you got him. let him talk **** then when the time comes. go get him. jus took out on of those things yeterday, but also including a front mount.

RX7withNitrous

Can't wait to run em

KiyoKix

I agree...ignorant death. To put it simple...he'll be like your thunder...cuz he only comes 5 seconds after lightning is gone .

flubyux2

Is this in Fla? cuz im in St. Pete... im come and run both of you in our Talon

i wont talk ****... im not a **** talker... but, you will have to bring more than boost and NOS... hehe

anyways, back on topic: i think you will OWN him prettty good. If you dont have crazy wheel hop/spin, youll take him. The problem w/ GST's is...w ell theres alot:

T25 turbo blows hot air over 12 psi
Stock sidemounts heatsoak
FWD is severely traction-handicapped
the crank likes to come out the side of the engine

sooo... plus, when they crank the boost up and heat soak, they detonate and loose crazy power cuz of the retarded timing.

RX7withNitrous

ya im not that impressed with the gst's i've seen around here especially from a stop. Now with a front mount and and upgraded turbo they are great cars from a roll.


Haha what else is the besides nitrous and turbo....i guess ill slap on a super charger haha. what's the talon running???

flubyux2

Yea, GST's cant hang unless it is from a roll... but, same w/ my supra... even after i put on a T04E... a rolling start wont help... ill still have traction problems even in 3rd gear. several of my friends do as it is.

anyhow... Last summer, before we dumped $4000 into it, it ran 13.8@101 mph and a 1.86 60' time... that was w/ an ACT 2100, leaky slave cyl, stock flywheel, no 2nd gear, all-season tires, 27 lb stock wheels, stock 1G MAS and stock 450's w/ an AFC, untuned.

after last season, we installed a race spec tranny, Fidanza flywheel, ACT 2600, new slave cyl, 16.5 lb Enkei's, Yoko Parada's, T2 injectors, 2G DSM MAS, SAFC tuned for max timing advance (no knock)...

due to shitty driving (no second gear) our Times sucked, even at 13.8, but the MPH indicated low-13 second would be the norm... now, since the tranny/clutch actually WORKS now... it should hit high 12's w/o a doubt all on stock turbo and stock sidemount intercooler, and stock manifold

gotdatfiyah

speakin of nos...i heard regular piston engines could handle like a 75 shot of nos, but 13b's and 20b's could handle like a 200 shot since they can be revved so highly?

BlackRx7

mmmm NOS I've been so temped, but thats the last thing on my list,

1. new windsheild
2. paint job, body work
3. Front Mount
4. Bigger injectors
5. Microtech

flubyux2

I dont know about that NOS thing... RPM redline has nothing to do w/ it. it has to do w/ the engines ability to contain the extreme combustion pressures.

on an old rotary... you better not run more than a 75, cuz your o rings, coolant seals and oil seals cant hold as much pressure as they used to. there is a how-to on FC3S.org about NOS installation and the tech associated w/ it.

My DSM redlines at 7000 too, but i dont think that would help it handle a 500 shot.

dsm_dan

Damn double post

dsm_dan

I am an owner of a 1G DSM and a 93FD. I have a lot of experience with both.

Now a second gen FWD with an int, exh, bov, bc, and thats all? If properly tuned can run about a 13.9@99 and thats pushing it.

Now he has a 16g? My buddy had a 98 GST with a Super T28 on it(smaller then a 16G) and it ran 12.969@108.57 8.440@86.87 and a 2.088s 60'. A small16G can get it into 13.0's with the supporting fuel mods.

You should get more information about this car before you go racing it. No 2G 6bolt motor can handle a 16g with out supporting fuel mods and at the very least an upgraded SMIC. I dont know what your FC runs but with the supporting mods a tuned 2g FWD s16g will be a force let alone a big16g capable of mid12s.

Anyways, good luck man I hope you beat the 2G Girly car. And maybe we could line em up sometime in the 1G AWD? I haven't done much streeting with the DSM.

Regards,

Bio-Weapon

if the dude has neon lights or a body kit or a really large spoiler, youre screwed, you better stay away from that. Big spoiler = big hp. Also if he has stickers on his car or a yellow shift **** (assuming its manual) then you better run too cause those are big performance upgrades.

600HP CLUB

that seem like alot of bull about the 20b and 13b revving. The reason alot of people say 20b and 13b (or any other rotaries 12a,10a,etc) because you don't have to have it "BUILT". ErinieT(sp?) had a stock reman mazda motor and rock that **** hard with 20 PSI, so that means with a good clean fuel system, a rotary should handle alot of nitrous.

Stealth Audio FC

hey sorry to burst your bubbles guys but i think that gst can still kick your ***....

If you race him in reverse....

flubyux2

i just wanted to say... theres no such thing as a 2G 6 bolt. after the 2nd week in May of 1992, there wasnt even a such thing as a 1G 6 bolt


he wont be properly tuned... for that you either need a DSM link and AFC or some Dynotime w/ WB O2 and an AFC... either way, i doubt he has it, and is gonna be knocking liek crazy and wont be makin much HP.

If he drives the wheels off that car, he will get a 13.5-13.8... thats all we got in our AWD w/ no 2nd gear synchros, so i think that would put us on Par w/ a traction handicapped FWD. 99-100mph in the traps is good for 13.3's if driven properly... but a ricer in an FWD wont drive that good. so he wont go that fast.

a PROPERLY tuned and supported standard 16g, which is SMALLER than a Super T28, can flow enough air to support 12 second runs, IF driven well. that means Shifting perfect, launching perfect, no bogging, and slicks... i doubt this kid has ANY of this going for him. a Super T28 is a big turbo, a 16g is only a hair bigger than a stock 14b. infact, the difference between a 16g and stock 14b is just the wheel... the compressor housing is the same, and the 16g only flows ~480 cfm compared to the 14b which flows ~430 cfm... not much of an improvement.

Turbo | Compressor| Inducer | Exducer
T28.......T60...............1.900.......2.367
Sm16G..16G..............1.830........2.365
-So, as you can see, the 16g compressor wheel is smaller than the T28.

Dan's buddy, w/ the 98 GST had some GOOD power, especially to hit those traps that fast. My supra would be hitting LOW 12's (12.0-12.2) at those same traps... so thats just a testament to how handicapped the FWD DSM's are in regards to traction.

Hes right, a rotary can rev to 10,500 rpm safely... around 10,500 rpm, the Eccentric shaft creates a harmonic vibration that will destroy itself and cause complete catastrophic failure.

and a Rotary can make plenty of safe power, no matter what the power adder, as long as you have the FUEL to support it and youre motor is seald up tight... keep it rich and keep it safe.

Elysian

heh eclipses in this area would never race me when i had my red rx7... come to think of it the only races i ever had were the v8 guys who thought they were big n bad... of the probly 5 or 6 v8 races i've had i only lost to 2... a 98 trans am with intake and exhaust(automatic wtf) and a C5 corvette... the corvette was in west texas when i was stock cept intake and exhaust...the trans am was in WA when i had no exhaust past the bonez hi flow racing cat and the 2.5" downpipe, as well as a boost controller pushing me to 11 psi... it was quite the close one, but the C5 corvette beat me at 150 mph... he was pacing me, then when i was up around 150 and above, he passed me like i was sitting still! it was nuts... it wasn't even a Z06... my rx7 i have now would take him if it had a running motor tho, so its all good:P