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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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It isn't pretty, but it works and it was cheap.

If you are confused, my car is a first gen. with a Turbo 2 motor in it, so that is why my engine bay looks different.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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I think you did a pretty clean job of wiring it. Good job.

How do you like how it runs now?
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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It runs great!

Idle is solid, lights are bright, my air/ fuel meter works, the dome light didn't work, but now it does.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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I don't see that bolt where the wire attach too on my engine. Is that only on a Turbo engine?? If so, where would a good grounding point be on a N/A block????
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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I think you can attach it to one of the bolts that hold the tranny and engine together.

I was going to connect it to one of the rotor housings before I remembered that they are aluminum
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by pillage6
I think you can attach it to one of the bolts that hold the tranny and engine together.

I was going to connect it to one of the rotor housings before I remembered that they are aluminum
Why cant you attach a ground to aluminum???
Really I dont know...
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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AL is a gread conductor! All the wires bringing you power to your house to run your computer right now are AL. (high tension lines are AL) They just don't do so well in houses for the high current draw in that small of a guage. There is no reason not to use the rotor housings as a ground location if it's convienient.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Umm... aluminum is a perfectly fine conductor of electricity. Your side housings are aluminum. How do you think your spark plugs still work if it was a bad conductor?
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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I guess I never thought of it.

I just went with what I knew.

Thanks guys, now I know more!
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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Re: Ground wire melted!!

Originally posted by DC350
I replaced the ground wire today...well one of the many. Looks like this ones is all melted! WOuld the alternator charging at 15 be a problem? Due to the voltage regulator? its the ground wire that sits just underneath the VIN number. Any help would be appreciated, as always

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Your battery will drop the voltage down to an acceptable level, most alternators turn out about 14 volts.

BTW, is 70 amps the nominal output for a 2nd gen alternator?
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by LoSRx7
I one time added an extra ground wire (think it was 4 gauge cause i had tons of it) from the battery to the car body. That night, on the way to a friends, all my lights shut off (interior and exterior) but my car was still going normal. I bugged out, and after i shut the car off then back on everything worked again. I took that extra groudn off the next day, and from there on i never had that prob. Has anyone ever experienced that?

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In car audio, that situation usually causes all kinds of noise from having multiple ground paths, causes huge voltage drops. I'm not 100% sure if it does the same with non-audio components, but it would make sense. Just replacing that ground with the 4 gauge would probably function better.

I think one user posted installing of the the circle earth grounding systems, said his electrical system was much better after the install. One ground point elimates the differences in ground potentials between different points in the car. Resoldering all connections and regrounding are the first things I will do when I can afford my beater GXL.
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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In car audio, that situation usually causes all kinds of noise from having multiple ground paths, causes huge voltage drops. I'm not 100% sure if it does the same with non-audio components, but it would make sense. Just replacing that ground with the 4 gauge would probably function better.

In car audio, the only potential problem from multiple grounding points is system noise from ground loops acting as antennae. There is no ******* way having additional grounds will lower voltage. If anything it will raise it, as the resistence is reduced allowing more current to flow.

The single earthing systems work well because you tie everything to a single point which you can then make absolutely positive is grounded. The chasis on a uni-body car is more than capable of handling the task of grounding the electrical system. Corrosion and bad connections are the problems encountered with using it. Using a single ground point is the lazy way of fixing problems. Going through and cleaning the original grounds would likely yield the discovery of corroded wires and connections.

BTW: A noisy alternator is a good one. Meaning the more juice the alt is producing the more EFI it emits.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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I wanna try to add some grounds this week cause I'm having major charging problems, and I'm not sure if its the alternator or lack of good grounds.

So where will I wanna run them?

- Terminal to Chassis
- Terminal to Alt
Chassis to engine

What else?

And do I just grab a bunch of 8 guage wire or so and start connecting it?
Also, where do you find those heavy duty terminals like in the pics above? Any place I go they just have em for smaller guage wire.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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The wires I used were already made, I just unbolted some bolts and threw them in.

I have seen grounding kits with 10 gauge wires, I used 4 gauge because that is what was closest to me in the store.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Before isntalling the additional grounds, my voltage meter never passed 12 volts, and my O2 gauge was working great. After adding the additional grounds (battery to strut tower, alternator to strut tower) the voltage guages were reading 14 volts, but my 02 gauge was not working right at all. It was just doing wacked out things, like only one bar at a time, but random readings. I'm hopeing after installing the ground wire on the exhaust and the ground wire located in the area near the O2 sensor, my O2 gauge will work again. Hopefully the ECU is not reading that my 02 is reading.

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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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Does that wire going from the Altenator mounting post go to the - or the + on the battery.. i see it goes from the altenator mount bolt but than what lead on the battery. thanks a bunch.

Markus

I think everyone has had problems with their FC at one point in time (as far as charging systems go)
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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From the alternator bracket it goes to the negative terminal on your battery.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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ok, so if i run a wire from the altenator Bracket to the neg on the batt than from the negg on the batt to the chassis is should solve a couple problems right?

I allready have a grounding strap going from my engine (where my P/S bracket use to be) to my strut tower. It didnt help anything

Here's whats happening when i shift :from 2nd to 3rd: i get a volt drop (i see it in the volt meter) when i go from 3rd to 4th i get the same thing, than from 4th to 5th.. WTF is causeing my Volt meter to act like a boost guage. It drops to the line above 8 for a sec. than shoots back up to just under or right on 12.

I've tried all grounding... even have a new batt and a new alt.. new teminal connectors and everything.
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