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02-02-03, 01:20 AM
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Got my Enkei RP-F1's check them out
I got my Enkei RP-F1 wheels
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/member...=view&car_id=5
17X8 +35 front 235/40/17
17X9 +35 Rear 255/40/17
yokohama ES-100
Sold my White FD wheels.
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/member...=view&car_id=5
17X8 +35 front 235/40/17
17X9 +35 Rear 255/40/17
yokohama ES-100
Sold my White FD wheels.
02-02-03, 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by 87GTR
I dont have any 5.0's im a all rotary guy.
I dont have any 5.0's im a all rotary guy.
Being a gear head means you appreciate all cars.
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02-02-03, 01:57 PM
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Yeah, dude, they're great cars.
Especially since they...
a) are built with Ford "quality" (where "Quality is Job 5 or 6, We Forget")
b) have cheesy interiors with terrible seats
c) handle like poo
d) share the same basic chassis with the 79 FORD FAIRLANE
e) have nasty-feeling shifters with very UnSporty throws
f) are complete "Me-Too" cars
g) have styling straight out of an Art Deco cartoon and are much more portly than a "Sports car" should ever be
h) come standard with WEAK V6es (the Roush (sic) package 5 spd V6 pulls a 16.5 - what an awesome car!)
...I could go on.
But hey, if Mustangs are your thing, more power to ya.
Brandon
P.S. I didn't meant this as a flame, I was just responding in-kind to you jumping all over 87GTR's ***.
Especially since they...
a) are built with Ford "quality" (where "Quality is Job 5 or 6, We Forget")
b) have cheesy interiors with terrible seats
c) handle like poo
d) share the same basic chassis with the 79 FORD FAIRLANE
e) have nasty-feeling shifters with very UnSporty throws
f) are complete "Me-Too" cars
g) have styling straight out of an Art Deco cartoon and are much more portly than a "Sports car" should ever be
h) come standard with WEAK V6es (the Roush (sic) package 5 spd V6 pulls a 16.5 - what an awesome car!)
...I could go on.
But hey, if Mustangs are your thing, more power to ya.
Brandon
P.S. I didn't meant this as a flame, I was just responding in-kind to you jumping all over 87GTR's ***.
02-02-03, 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary Racer
Again with the Mustang slamming. Something wrong with having a Mustang!? They are good cars people, GET F**KING OVER IT!!!
Being a gear head means you appreciate all cars.
Again with the Mustang slamming. Something wrong with having a Mustang!? They are good cars people, GET F**KING OVER IT!!!
Being a gear head means you appreciate all cars.
02-02-03, 03:48 PM
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a) are built with Ford "quality" (where "Quality is Job 5 or 6, We Forget")
b) have cheesy interiors with terrible seats
c) handle like poo
d) share the same basic chassis with the 79 FORD FAIRLANE
e) have nasty-feeling shifters with very UnSporty throws
f) are complete "Me-Too" cars
g) have styling straight out of an Art Deco cartoon and are much more portly than a "Sports car" should ever be
h) come standard with WEAK V6es (the Roush (sic) package 5 spd V6 pulls a 16.5 - what an awesome car!)
b) have cheesy interiors with terrible seats
c) handle like poo
d) share the same basic chassis with the 79 FORD FAIRLANE
e) have nasty-feeling shifters with very UnSporty throws
f) are complete "Me-Too" cars
g) have styling straight out of an Art Deco cartoon and are much more portly than a "Sports car" should ever be
h) come standard with WEAK V6es (the Roush (sic) package 5 spd V6 pulls a 16.5 - what an awesome car!)
This is not the 60's anymore, newsflash...domestic cars can turn. A mustang is not a tiny sports car like the rx7. You familiar with off idle torque? You drive a rx7 so no you're not.
I fail to see what chassis the car is based off of, or is similar to has anything to do wtih the car.
The 10 foot shifter in my t2 is nothing to brag about. Not to mention the grinding I get even after a complete tranny rebuild when trying to throw it fast as hell into second because the syncro is to far apart.
I don't know what you mean by a 'me-too' car
Styling is individual. What one person thinks is beautiful looks like trash to another and vice versa. The mustang is not a 'sports car' and I don't think Ford is trying to convey them as such.
I forgot what is the standard 2nd gen engine? Oh yeah a 1.3L n/a rotary with a backbreaking 130 footpounds of torque...if that. Whew that's exciting. What do they pull in the 1/4? Mid 16's. What was your point again?
Bashing of any car gets old after a while, and especially cars that I happen to like.
02-02-03, 04:42 PM
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Well, I tried to resist, but just couldn't... 
Have you ever seen a Foxbody mustang interior (which, remember, is what we're talking about)? The FC is light years ahead of that POS. Of course, I agree with you - when my interior pieces break, I just huck 'em and save that extra 5 grams.
This is not the 60's anymore, newsflash...domestic cars can turn. A mustang is not a tiny sports car like the rx7. You familiar with off idle torque? You drive a rx7 so no you're not.
Domestic cars can turn? Really? Like, as well as an FC? Or an MR-2? Or even 300ZX? I can't think of a single domestic RWD car that can turn-in nearly as crisply as comparable Japanese offerings.
And the off-ide torque comment is a red herring.
I fail to see what chassis the car is based off of, or is similar to has anything to do wtih the car.
It doesn't? Wow, that's news to me. I figured that a car built on a chassis that's purpose-built to be in a sports car (and thus, have decent suspension pickup points) would probably perform better than one that was designed for a four-seater mom-mobile. In fact, I can't think of a single instance where retrofitting a sedan chassis has resulted in a good sports car. Can you?
The 10 foot shifter in my t2 is nothing to brag about. Not to mention the grinding I get even after a complete tranny rebuild when trying to throw it fast as hell into second because the syncro is to far apart.
Granted, but if you're shifting your TII at redline out of first anyway, you're not shifting right. Take a look at the TII gear ratios and torque curve and reconsider your shift point. And you still haven't addressed the content of my original post - that FROD shifters feel like butt and have huge throws. Another clever red herring argument.
I don't know what you mean by a 'me-too' car
By that I mean people buy the cars for their "heritage" or "recognizability" or other such tripe. Not because they're objectively the best choice. Though I will give Frod credit for the recent crop of Mustangs - they're a hell of a deal for the money.
Styling is individual. What one person thinks is beautiful looks like trash to another and vice versa. The mustang is not a 'sports car' and I don't think Ford is trying to convey them as such.
Point conceded, except that IMO Ford is very much trying to position the Mustang as a sport car.
I forgot what is the standard 2nd gen engine? Oh yeah a 1.3L n/a rotary with a backbreaking 130 footpounds of torque...if that. Whew that's exciting. What do they pull in the 1/4? Mid 16's. What was your point again?
That the base N/A FC, with its "weak" 130 lb-ft will pull a flat 16 (not mid 16), while a tuner-modified base Mustang will still only pull a 16.5. As well as those little things called handling, steering feel, braking, and looks (though the last is subjective).
Bashing of any car gets old after a while, and especially cars that I happen to like.
Sure, I know that. I own an RX-7 - I know that better than most anyone. I was jumping on Rotary Racer's *** for jumping all over 87GTR for a completely innocuous statement.
Brandon
Originally posted by gsracer
I'd rather have an interior from the mustang than my FC interior that keeps cracking and breaking. Anyone who cries about interior ergonomics is a girl anyways.
I'd rather have an interior from the mustang than my FC interior that keeps cracking and breaking. Anyone who cries about interior ergonomics is a girl anyways.
This is not the 60's anymore, newsflash...domestic cars can turn. A mustang is not a tiny sports car like the rx7. You familiar with off idle torque? You drive a rx7 so no you're not.
Domestic cars can turn? Really? Like, as well as an FC? Or an MR-2? Or even 300ZX? I can't think of a single domestic RWD car that can turn-in nearly as crisply as comparable Japanese offerings.
And the off-ide torque comment is a red herring.
I fail to see what chassis the car is based off of, or is similar to has anything to do wtih the car.
It doesn't? Wow, that's news to me.
I figured that a car built on a chassis that's purpose-built to be in a sports car (and thus, have decent suspension pickup points) would probably perform better than one that was designed for a four-seater mom-mobile. In fact, I can't think of a single instance where retrofitting a sedan chassis has resulted in a good sports car. Can you?The 10 foot shifter in my t2 is nothing to brag about. Not to mention the grinding I get even after a complete tranny rebuild when trying to throw it fast as hell into second because the syncro is to far apart.
Granted, but if you're shifting your TII at redline out of first anyway, you're not shifting right. Take a look at the TII gear ratios and torque curve and reconsider your shift point. And you still haven't addressed the content of my original post - that FROD shifters feel like butt and have huge throws. Another clever red herring argument.
I don't know what you mean by a 'me-too' car
By that I mean people buy the cars for their "heritage" or "recognizability" or other such tripe. Not because they're objectively the best choice. Though I will give Frod credit for the recent crop of Mustangs - they're a hell of a deal for the money.
Styling is individual. What one person thinks is beautiful looks like trash to another and vice versa. The mustang is not a 'sports car' and I don't think Ford is trying to convey them as such.
Point conceded, except that IMO Ford is very much trying to position the Mustang as a sport car.
I forgot what is the standard 2nd gen engine? Oh yeah a 1.3L n/a rotary with a backbreaking 130 footpounds of torque...if that. Whew that's exciting. What do they pull in the 1/4? Mid 16's. What was your point again?
That the base N/A FC, with its "weak" 130 lb-ft will pull a flat 16 (not mid 16), while a tuner-modified base Mustang will still only pull a 16.5. As well as those little things called handling, steering feel, braking, and looks (though the last is subjective).
Bashing of any car gets old after a while, and especially cars that I happen to like.
Brandon
02-02-03, 04:46 PM
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I have some epoxy for interior bits and what not. It hardens to the touch in <5 mins. The piece you glued will be stronger than the rest of the part heh. Believe me, Ive tried a few times on spare bits of plastic. Not once have I gotten it to break in the same place (even 30 min after applying it).
02-02-03, 06:34 PM
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Staggered tires, nice.
How do you find the manual rack with tires that size? Alright? Great? Unbearable? I was debating removing mine (I'm running on 225 17" Falken Azenis').
How do you find the manual rack with tires that size? Alright? Great? Unbearable? I was debating removing mine (I'm running on 225 17" Falken Azenis').
02-02-03, 08:33 PM
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Granted, but if you're shifting your TII at redline out of first anyway, you're not shifting right. Take a look at the TII gear ratios and torque curve and reconsider your shift point. And you still haven't addressed the content of my original post - that FROD shifters feel like butt and have huge throws. Another clever red herring argument.
It doesn't? Wow, that's news to me. I figured that a car built on a chassis that's purpose-built to be in a sports car (and thus, have decent suspension pickup points) would probably perform better than one that was designed for a four-seater mom-mobile. In fact, I can't think of a single instance where retrofitting a sedan chassis has resulted in a good sports car. Can you?
It's one of the last descendants of the muscle cars = go fast, straight.
Domestic cars can turn? Really? Like, as well as an FC? Or an MR-2? Or even 300ZX? I can't think of a single domestic RWD car that can turn-in nearly as crisply as comparable Japanese offerings.
And the off-ide torque comment is a red herring.
And the off-ide torque comment is a red herring.
That the base N/A FC, with its "weak" 130 lb-ft will pull a flat 16 (not mid 16), while a tuner-modified base Mustang will still only pull a 16.5. As well as those little things called handling, steering feel, braking, and looks (though the last is subjective).
Sure, I know that. I own an RX-7 - I know that better than most anyone. I was jumping on Rotary Racer's *** for jumping all over 87GTR for a completely innocuous statement.
As do I my friend, and I understand where that came from but I thought that a few of your points were misleading
02-02-03, 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by gsracer
I've asked this question several times but no one has given a straight forward answer. I also think that would depend on the port size (stock, street, etc), turbo choice, and mods. Regardless shifting at 6500 in the t2 isn't really an awe inspiring crisp feel. What gearboxes do I love to row through? I like by far the s2000 has the most amazing short throws. Hell even my old gsr was a blast to row through the gears in. Point taken though about shift point and I'd liek to get my car on a dyno so I can see exactly when the most beneficial shift point would be.
I've asked this question several times but no one has given a straight forward answer. I also think that would depend on the port size (stock, street, etc), turbo choice, and mods. Regardless shifting at 6500 in the t2 isn't really an awe inspiring crisp feel. What gearboxes do I love to row through? I like by far the s2000 has the most amazing short throws. Hell even my old gsr was a blast to row through the gears in. Point taken though about shift point and I'd liek to get my car on a dyno so I can see exactly when the most beneficial shift point would be.
But that's just my opinion.
I don't know where you got your source for that 16.5 but I'm willing to bet a 5 speed base model mustang could break 15's. There are many 5 speed base model camaros running mid 15's all day long bone stock. Then again why would you ever get the base model of any sports car. n/a fc vs v6 mustang I'll admit in most categories would go to the FC, but in the end I personally would rather have the t2 or the GT model.
Damn, dude, your reply wasn't argumentative enough... this is supposed to be the forum. We're not supposed to get along!
Brandon
02-02-03, 10:51 PM
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I guess I should apologize for getting all bent out of shape. Just seems to me like every other post I read there is some one bashing Mustangs. I apologize again if I "jumped on anyone’s ***". It just makes me upset and I start to take things to personnel. I own both (Mustang's and RX-7's) and I love them both. So excuse me if I got to upset
02-03-03, 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Rotary Racer
Again with the Mustang slamming. Something wrong with having a Mustang!? They are good cars people, GET F**KING OVER IT!!!
Being a gear head means you appreciate all cars.
Again with the Mustang slamming. Something wrong with having a Mustang!? They are good cars people, GET F**KING OVER IT!!!
Being a gear head means you appreciate all cars.
WTF is going on in here. hijacking a thread on wheels cuase I dont have a 5.0
This I way I dont post over on the forum much. if I would have siad I dont have a kia im a rotary guy all the freaks that drive kia's would have been crying like this mustang guy.
im going back to Teamfc3s.org where the IQ most of the time is above 5.0 ...
02-03-03, 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by 87GTR
im going back to Teamfc3s.org where the IQ most of the time is above 5.0 ...
im going back to Teamfc3s.org where the IQ most of the time is above 5.0 ...
