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Old 12-18-02, 03:34 AM
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Good piggyback ECU upgrade...

i'm going to go a bigger turbo, and didn't want the stock ECU. What's a good piggyback replacement? I'm not talking about haltech here by the way, just something that's better than stock until i can afford a haltech some day.

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Good Piggyback? Isn't that an oxymoron?!?!
Just joking, without serious engine mods, piggybacks generally work just fine. I don't know much about them though, since I never plan on using one. Sorry I can't help you, just had to post that.
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hahaha, it's cool.

I will be running it with a streetported motor, 60-1 and FMIC.
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I just wanted something like the "piggyback" to run with until i could afford the whole setup with the haltech and tuning like that.
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A S-AFC is 290-350, thats a lot of bucks to spend on something that will be useless to you when you get a stand-alone.

Dale Clark is king of the Piggy-backs, but alas he is missing in action. You could always ask our other knowledgeable moderator; mazdamanda? Perhaps she will share her tuning experience with us?
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Yeah, i thought of a S-AFC
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I would say that your cheapest beat would ba a SAFC, there is always the E-Manage but that can get to be expensive when you start to add up all the extra add on features. Making it not that much removed from the price of a used standalone. I know people have run larger turbos on SAFC, I am kind of wary of it though. To me the SAFC is okay for the stock turbo at higher boost. Dale was also running an AIC to help get extra fuel into the engine.
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I was looking at the E-manage too, but I didn't know if it worked with FC's. I saw it and thought it was just for FD's.
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MICROTECH.
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hmmm...never heard of it.
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appears to be a good system, not as pricey as a Haltech: but the numbeer of people in the US who knpw how to tune is lacking
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Most of the FASTEST rotaries in Australia are running the Microtech systems.......
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e-manage is cool. my frend used on mk3, uses loptop to program an everyting.
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jmseven, are there readily available maps and people we could get in touch with over the net to help with a microtech? it seems you australians love it, might go that route in the future.
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Sure. Just PM Dale, forum user name 10sec rx7.

Good Luck!!!
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Originally posted by mrb63083
I was looking at the E-manage too, but I didn't know if it worked with FC's. I saw it and thought it was just for FD's.
Dale Clark is putting one in. Seems to be fairly simple actually, not much worse than an S-AFC.
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the e-manage is pretty cool, becuase it can be as simple as a 1st AFC and as complex as full 32x32 fuel maps and 16x16 ignition maps! Very cool toy, but it will cost nearly $500 to outfit the whole thing.
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
A S-AFC is 290-350, thats a lot of bucks to spend on something that will be useless to you when you get a stand-alone.

Dale Clark is king of the Piggy-backs, but alas he is missing in action. You could always ask our other knowledgeable moderator; mazdamanda? Perhaps she will share her tuning experience with us?
Is somebody jealous?
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No just thought you might share the benefit of your experiences, that would be a task expected of a moderator
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awesome, it's a while away, but if i do go that route, it's nice to know someone can help me.
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where?

where can i check out these microtech, i e-mailed a billlion people, no one knows, i need a website and a price and an e-mail to contact, i'm soooo willing to buy it..

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Microtech is a stane alone ems. Just like haltech, motec, link, wolf, etc. I can't remember the cost, but I think it's around $25000 USD. Haltech E6K is about $1200 USD.
Check out www.mvamotorsports.com Marco Acosta works there and probably has as much experience (or more) with Microtech than anyone in the world.

S-AFC is a good piggyback choice because it will do the job for what you want, costs $300 (about) and even if you do upgrade to a stand alone in the future I'm sure you can sell it for $175-$200.
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Bridgepoprt: You are incorrect. Microtech MTX-8 is 1295 Aus.
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yepp, microtech ranges from 5-6 hundred USDollars..

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Originally posted by mrb63083
I was looking at the E-manage too, but I didn't know if it worked with FC's. I saw it and thought it was just for FD's.
greddy emanage works with FCs dude. i think you're talking about the pfc


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