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Old 04-28-11, 01:45 AM
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Good Deal?...yes or no?...

ok RX-ers...i need a new project...thinking of spending around 7K to buy and mod up a 88 RX7...

this guy is selling a 88 rx7 that doesn't run...stock....he says no rust and interior is ok...for around $1200...

i'll buy a body kit - $800

coil over spring lowering kit - $700

supercharger kit - $2000??? / turbo kit - ????

roll cage - $1000???

hmmm...what else do i need guys?...for those that have gone this route...can u itemize your projects?...or at least try?....

am i being naive here?...how much do u guys think i'll be spending here...

i own a complete body/mechanics shop...
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Body kit blah $800 is too much for something that's probly gonna get broken. I just bought my 91 running,clean title. Flawless interior and extrior was clean. For $1200.. maybe try to get it a little cheaper or get an s5! =)
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Imo supercharger is a waste of money, superchargers only work with v8s that have torque to get the torque faster and make then deadly. Turbo is the way to go for a rotary or a 4 cylinder engine. $700 is a good price for a nice set of coilovers.

Find a running turbo2 swap, rebuild it.
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U can have a nice running turbo2 fc with 7k budget.
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ok...umm...i'm not familiar with ur guy's acronyms...can u dumb it down for us dummies here...

what's a s5???

what is the best way to go here?...this car will be more of a promotional car to promote my business...to showcase what i can really do...or perhaps...not do...

i'm not really gonna race it...or even use it as a daily driver...perhaps occasional sunday ride but that's pretty much it...
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13bt swap - $1200
Rebuild kit - $600
T2 driveshaft, t2 rear end, t2 axles - $400-500
Stand alone ecu - $500-1200
Exhaust - $300-500
Turbo manifold - $400
Turbo $500-$1000
Downpipe - $200-300
Injectors - $300
Fuel pump (whinebro) - $125
Tune - $400
Wideband, boost gauge, sensors $400
suspension bushings $300-500
suspension $1400

That's it for the most part. I'm sure I'm missing a few things. but thats just an estimate. prices can be cheaper if you look around.
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so u went the turbo route also eh?...

anyone here went the supercharger route?

this is exactly what i need...i'd like to have a good idea of how much it's going to cost me b4 i decide to go all out and do this...i'd really like to put in a small roll cage...if i don't find one that's already pre-made...i'll see if i can get a local machine shop to make me one...or a metal fabricator put one in for me...what do u guys think?

Originally Posted by 2slow4stock
13bt swap - $1200
Rebuild kit - $600
T2 driveshaft, t2 rear end, t2 axles - $400-500
Stand alone ecu - $500-1200
Exhaust - $300-500
Turbo manifold - $400
Turbo $500-$1000
Downpipe - $200-300
Injectors - $300
Fuel pump (whinebro) - $125
Tune - $400
Wideband, boost gauge, sensors $400
suspension bushings $300-500
suspension $1400

That's it for the most part. I'm sure I'm missing a few things. but thats just an estimate. prices can be cheaper if you look around.
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You can get a 4 point set up shouldn't be expensive maybe $500.

Also I price I posted is what the prices are going around lately. I paided a lot less, since I was looking high and low. But the're are a few people with supercharged set ups. I do not know how much the set up it though.
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now i noticed that u did a 13bt swap...so u just went out and bought an engine that already had the turbo in it?...i was just looking on ebay for a turbo for the 13b and they listed it at $7K...a little high if u ask me...
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Originally Posted by Freemusic
what's a s5???
S4 = series 4 1986 - 1988

s5 = series 5 1989 - 1991

several several changes between the two, but s4 seems much more common.
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Your wasting your money. Spend 2000-3000 on a t2 with low compression. Spend the rest on a rebuild (anywhere from 1500-3000) and tuning (powerFC 1000-1300).

Who cares about a body kit. That crap is a waste of money. Keep the stock bumpers.
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Originally Posted by tuscanidream
Your wasting your money. Spend 2000-3000 on a t2 with low compression. Spend the rest on a rebuild (anywhere from 1500-3000) and tuning (powerFC 1000-1300).

Who cares about a body kit. That crap is a waste of money. Keep the stock bumpers.
t2??? = turbo II

hmmm...so i'm wasting my money eh?...

so ur saying the car and the project isn't worth all of the headaches?
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do yourself a favor and buy a t2(turbo 2) from the start...
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Yeah going supercharged is not worth the time and effort IMO. Like everyone else has been saying, find a Turbo II RX7 and rebuild the engine. From there you can choose how you want to proceeded with your turbo setup~
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how does having someone build you a rollcage show off what your business can do?
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
how does having someone build you a rollcage show off what your business can do?
i guess it doesn't does it?...but...if someone comes in and says...hey...i want one of those...i can say...yeah...we can do that for u...and contract it out...

i'm certain that not all pros know every little thing about everything...most of them know where to go to get the job done and get it done fast...

for example...toyota prius...new car that's all module control...lots of electronics...very little mechanical...i got a lady come in and so i called a tech at a toyota dealer...and contracted the work out....i made some money...the contractor made some money....the lady saved a few grand from going straight to the dealer...everyone's happy...get it?
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thanks everyone for the input...i'm learning quite a bit from everyone's input...
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If you list the services that you are trying to advertise then I can make some suggestions. Do you have a specialty that would set you apart from the other vendors? Also, what are the demographics of your customers? For example, street, drag race, drifting, SCCA/NASA, low-budget, mid-budget, etc.

The guys in this thread are bashing superchargers because there are no good kits made for our cars. If you are willing to fabricate a custom setup then I can make a suggestion there too, but otherwise you should stick with a turbo setup. Since I assume that paint and body work will cost you very little money, I think you can make a pretty decent car for $7K.

BTW, $1200 is too much for a non-running RX-7 unless it has a serious amount of useful modifications or incredibly nice paint and interior. I paid $1,000 for my convertible, and it has been running fine in autocross events, spirited mountain road driving, and long cross-country drives for 3 years now. As others have suggested, unless you want to advertise a turbo conversion then you should start with an 87-92 Turbo II car, which you should be able to find for $1,500 in running condition. Check our general classified section and your regional classified section:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=108
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=224
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Give me your $7000 and you can have my Turbo II. Wont even have to spend all summer building it.

O wait, give me $6200. It doesnt have a body kit.
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the market that i'm trying to advertise to are the young asian rice burners in the st. paul area...there's a large community of Hmong kids in the area...and they love hondas more than anything...honda this...honda that...i'm soooo sick and tired of hondas...i want to build a nice rx7 that will make them go wow...they've never seen what an old rx7 can do yet...

just an update...i bought a 1985 GSL-SE...it's in excellent shape...no rust...great interior...not running but who cares...

i'm excited...i want to shave door handle...put in suicide doors...etc...all the bells and whistle...

oh yeah...i'll be making a new thread asking...is it possible to put in an S5 turbo into this thing and have the S5 tranny fit? (shift stick location wise)...has someone already done this?


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If you list the services that you are trying to advertise then I can make some suggestions. Do you have a specialty that would set you apart from the other vendors? Also, what are the demographics of your customers? For example, street, drag race, drifting, SCCA/NASA, low-budget, mid-budget, etc.

The guys in this thread are bashing superchargers because there are no good kits made for our cars. If you are willing to fabricate a custom setup then I can make a suggestion there too, but otherwise you should stick with a turbo setup. Since I assume that paint and body work will cost you very little money, I think you can make a pretty decent car for $7K.

BTW, $1200 is too much for a non-running RX-7 unless it has a serious amount of useful modifications or incredibly nice paint and interior. I paid $1,000 for my convertible, and it has been running fine in autocross events, spirited mountain road driving, and long cross-country drives for 3 years now. As others have suggested, unless you want to advertise a turbo conversion then you should start with an 87-92 Turbo II car, which you should be able to find for $1,500 in running condition. Check our general classified section and your regional classified section:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=108
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=224
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Originally Posted by Freemusic
i'm excited...i want to shave door handle...put in suicide doors...etc...all the bells and whistle...
Wow, maybe you should follow the trend and stick with the honda's, all of the questions you are asking have been covered a million times.
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Wow, maybe you should follow the trend and stick with the honda's, all of the questions you are asking have been covered a million times.
oh i'm sure they have...but do i see any rx7s on the road at all?...no...

this is a personal passion...and if it'll help the business...great...if not...no big deal...

my shop does lots of ur basic stuff...auto accidents...tune-ups...brakes...engine/tranny installs...all the basic stuff...no real customizations...

i figured...hell...i've got the shop...why not not have a cool classic car that will make my customer's kids go whoa...

most of my customers are old grannies and grandpops from the old country that know nothing about cars...nor do they care other than is my honda or toyota running ruff...can u fix it...

i want their grandkids to stop by and say...wow...did u do that?...did u get that done here?...etc...

but anyways...i've got this rx7 now...and yeah...i love the gen 1 body way more than the gen 2...and so i'll probably keep the body as factory as possible...i hate the after market front air dams that they have for this gen...and i hate the body kits that are out there...i like the factory style just the way it is...

my plans...slap some brembo brakes or something better than what it's got on it...gotta be cross drilled and slotted...put differential brakes in the rear if possible (just like the idea of it)...keep engine rotary with a turbo (thought about putting a v8 on it but nah...it's a rice burner...gotta keep with asian heritage)...gosh...the list just goes on and on...
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differential brakes? I'm not sure what you mean by this, but the only things i know that have differential brakes are airplanes and heavy machinery. There won't be a use for it on a rx7 unless you are slapping on some tracks.
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oh wow...i'm reading some of the stuff on 1st gen with gen 2 engines and turbos...wow...and that mariah 1st gen car...wow...one is on sale for about 6200 only????...wow...makes me want to go out and buy it...shizzzz nit....

ok...this site is officially off the hook...u guys kick *** like no other forum kicks ***....i spent all nite reading up on this stuff....this is just great...now i'm gonna have to show up late for work tomorrow...dayem....

ok...more reading to do...and more ideas...
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Wow... You can make a 13bt work in an FB no problem... Wanna know how?? Flap the front cover of a 12a on there and your good to go. Of course making a new oil return line, unless you get a 12a-T front cover. But honestly I think your way over your head... (minus ems and wiring, but mounting it is what were talking about.)

Just so you know. I picked up a TII block for $300 and rebuilt it for $300 just soft seal kits and it's running to this day running 14psi daily. It all depends on how much skills you really have, is going to tally up how much your really going to pay in the end.


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