i have an 86 n/a with a hooped motor and trans, i found a 13b RE TT for $1,100 with out ecu or wiring harness, i am in west canada(vancouver) and it is in toronto(which is closer than japan so im happy) what d[/IMG]o you think guys??????http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...QAdIdZ27902973

 

If you get that motor, prepare to dish out the dough needed to get it running with your car. It's not exactly a bolt in setup.

 

It will cost you $10K to install that engine.

The FD harness and ECU will be useless.

 

how would it cost 10g im doing it my self, as for the wiring harness, and ecu what can i get

 

if you can find or fabricate the mounts to make it fit which is possible, go ahead and do it. i also don't see how it would cost you 10k to do such setup.

 

If you do it yourself it will run you around 4k for a bare minimum install

$1100 for the motor

$1000ish for a standalone/harness ect
FMIC and custom piping could run you $500 on the cheap end

if your trans is bad and your replacing it you should change the whole tii driveline which will cost you around $600 plus the flywheel and clutch

then you have the mounting brackets which are around $250 IIRC from banzai racing

plus all the misc crap I cant remember.

If you want, go to fc3spro.com, they have a writeup about this swap, they show you the expensive proper way but still give good info.

 

okay, that sounds reasonable, the engine comes with a new trans, resurfaced flywheel and a new clutch. i have been contemplating about the purchase, only because i found an 88 tII, the engine is imported, and when it was dropped in the guys couldnt get it to start, any one know why that might be, im thinking something silly because the engine is bran new

 

$1500 or so for the standalone EMS to run it.

Another $1000 for a front mount intercooler setup.

$4000 for a single turbo kit.

$500 for fuel pump, lines, etc.

$500-$800 for a half decent exhaust

$500 for TII drivetrain

$500 or so for clutch

$1000 for other misc expenses (gauges, etc.)

You can save some money by running the stock twin turbos in parallel form but the FD twin turbos are junk. They are probably worn on most used 13B-REWs out there and will need a rebuild/replacement.

Oh, and if you can't tune then figure another $500-$800 in tuning and dyno time.

 

see frank, this is why i mentioned in your other thread that you should pull the motor apart of your current car because doing *any* motor swap that's not 86-88 n/a will end up costing more than you want to spend.

 

not to be an *** but where are you guys buying your parts for them to be that expensive? 4k for a single turbo? if i were to spend that much money on just an install i wouldn't have a car or that engine in my car, cause you are not even talking about rebuilding the engine. wow

 

^ have you ever done a full turbo upgrade with supporting mods?

 

Yea, I dont get the 4000$ for the single turbo also...

Single turbo - I dont knwo FDs at all but I would assume something like a Garret GT45? - 850$ to 1000$
Exhaust manifild - 350$
Elbow or down pipe - 300$
2x720cc injectors - 300$
Where does the extra 2200$ come from?

Spec.

 

SpeedMachine's GT35R kit for the 13B-REW:
http://www.speedmachineperformance.c...0kit%2035r.htm

$4199 US (so maybe $3500 Canadian?).


GT45 from ATP turbo:
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT

$2950 US.

$350 or less for an eBay manifold that will need to be heavily modified to fit a GT45 and will crack in short order. $800 and up for a quality manifold, more if it needs to be custom (which it most certainly would have to be to fit a GT45 on a REW in an FC).

Seems reasonable.

And then $2500 to rebuild the engine after it blows due to lack of fuel. To support a GT45, you're going to need 4 x 1600CC if you run low boost. 8 x 1600CC if you want to stretch the turbo a little more.

$10K would be cheap to put a REW equipped with a GT45 into an FC.

Best make that between $15K and $17K if you want to run the GT45.

Oh, and the GT45 will shred the TII drivetrain very easily...

 

But the NA driveline can hold a GT40 just fine lol

 

A GT40R won't make 900 HP like the GT45R will...

 

very true

 

Aaron, mabye i am taking your post wrong, but i think you are thinking this guy is trying to put an REW motor into his fc, im pretty sure he is planning to put an RE motor in. Which is fairly cheap swap for an fc.

 

Ah, RE. I thought I saw a "W" there.

Still, most of what I said applies. While the TII ECU will run the thing, it's not a very good idea to do so. Fewer issues with the twin turbos of course, but the Cosmo ECU expects to see an automatic transmission which requires some hacking to fool.

Almost the same issues as the REW.

 

Yup you are absolutly right. You can always keep stuff to get by, but a good, big power, reliable build is gonna run you about what aaron stated.

 

If you're gonna do the swap on a budget, you might as well hold off on it till you have enough money to do it right. You'll be happier that way.

Deals come and go, I'm sure you'll find one when you're ready to do the swap.

 

So, to sum it up....on your budget (not much, I think, but you didn't give any real #'s to work with on the other thread), no, it's not a good buy. What you need to do is tear apart the motor that's already in there and replace only the parts that aren't any good anymore and stick it back in. You'll still have a blast driving this thing w/the stock motor. Yes, it's only ~140hp, but it's a 2700lb car, and it's made to be fun to drive!! Just fix the current motor and do the necessary tune/check-up's to make it a fun DD for now.

At least, that's what I plan on doing (in addition to a streetport and exhaust work), and I think we're on similar budgets (shoestrings ).

 

ARGHX, i'm not sure if the setup that i have in one of my car is a full single turbo setup with supporting mods, but it includes, ss autochrome manifold with Holset HX55 which has not cracked yet for over 2 years, modified using 2 turbonetics wastegates, Wolf3D V4 ems, 2 walbrow intank pumps, aeromotive fpr, 4 1600cc injectors, tial 50mm bov, custom intake and intercooler(which came from a semi truck like the turbo), 5 inch downpipe to 4 inch exhaust, gauges, innovate LM1 and LMA3, and more to list.

AARON, like one of the guys said, he wanted to intall the engine in his car he didn't say anything about making 600hp. i'm sure he can use the stock twins until he sees the need for more power, and i'm sure a walbrow pump is good enough fuel for a stock engine. now when he is ready to upgrade then it can get expensive.

 

so $1100 for motor, plus ecu plus harness plus intercooler (not pictured).

again, why not just find a replacement n/a???

 

he wants a little more power

 

more power than a n/a? I don't even want to imagine the horrors.....