FernandoTII

I own a 1988 Turbo II and will be taking it to the dyno for the first time ever, here in San Jose, Costa Rica where I live, my car has the following mods:

-Stock 13B 1988 Turbo II engine with 16,000 miles purchased from Mazdatrix brand new
-Racing Beat cat back exhaust
-Garret T04 turbo
-HKS external waste gate
-720 cc secondary injectors
-Apex SAFC
-HKS EVC IV
-HKS air filter
-Racing fuel pump from RX7.com (can't remember what brand)
-Racing Beat lightweight steel flywheel
-18" wheels with Nittos' 555
-Upgraded steel brake hoses

Any idea about what HP range I should be achieving? After installing the 720 cc injectors, SAFC and EVC IV, this is the first visit to the dyno to get everything set (currently just connected yet not programmed). The car is running extremely rich so I hope that once set the SAFC everything should be running well. With the EVC IV connected, yet not programmed, I'm boosting 10 psi.

Lastly, I'd like to upgrade the ignition system. Any recommendation for the type and level of mods. that I have?

Thanks for any help.

Fernando

RacerXtreme7

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Give us boost pressures your running and what kind of T04 it is then someone *might* be able to guess.

RETed

Threads like this are really starting to get irritating.
Why not just post AFTER the dyno???
The discussion just goes around in circles.


-Ted

SidewaysFC

Ditto... something like this needs to be in another category because it really isn't tech related.

Actually... another thing I am actually starting to notice now that I am on this site a little more frequently is the massive amount of repeated questions. I can see now why everyone is constantly yelling to search. There needs to be a window right before you enter each sub category that says, "STOP! ...and seach before making new threads."

It should be one of those pages that automatically redirects you to the next page unless you click a link to skip it. Atleast everyone will see it though.

bcool

No kidding, plus half the stuff on his list is irrelivant to HP numbers, posting what PSI you're gonna be dynoing on would be the other half of the equation. Just tell us what you got afterwords, i'm guessing 120whp because i hate you.

FernandoTII

I was hopeful some members with experience on this (I know there's plenty in this forum) might have shed some light. As I said, right now I'm running 10 psi without touching the EVC IV. So, I'll narrow the question, at 10 psi what would be a reasonable HP with the mods. described? At 15 psi? I'm not sure about the exact model of T04, I bought it some 2 yrs ago new. It's not roller bearing.

RETed, sorry to irritate you with this question, as well as with the other one I made inquiring for an ignition system. I assumed that this is what a discussion forum was about.

RacerXtreme7

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Ted,

Face it, were getting old..LOL

There’s quite a bit of useless threads going on these days. Our beloved cars are getting old, hence cheap, and younger less experienced people are buying them. Seems to be a "rice" or "super drifto" (not that I dislike drifting) trend where people are more concerned about appearance over function or to follow a trend and a LOT of pipe dreaming. I cringe at "were to get lambo doors for my fc", or "how much power will I make with my XS power T70". Sigh......... to each there own I suppose. Response not directed at the original poster, just comradery with Ted.

~Mike.............

FernandoTII

Respectfully, I think this hostility is exaggerated and unnecessary. I'll just unsubscribe from the forum.

RacerXtreme7

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T04 is such a generic name. Its like asking, "I have 20 bills in my wallet, how much money do I have?" Well, are they 20's, 10's or 1's??? Can't answer that, but you at the least have $20.00. Without knowing the turbine trim, turbine A/R, and most importantly compressor trim theres no one able to make even a best guess. but here goes one, 285 at the wheels, and hopefully you wont run out of fuel.

And for the power you'll be making, other then a range colder plug, you won't need to make any ignition mods (good plug wires). The FC has good strong ignition able to work on very high power cars without modding (although modding it does not hurt).

~Mike...............

RETed

You can do whatever you want, but you understand what you're trying to ask.

Let's start with the dyno...
There's several types of dynomometers that I know of.
All of them spit out different numbers.
The DynoJet is a rolling chassis dyno that tends to spit out numbers on the high end; other dyno manufacturers claims these DynoJet numbers are "inflated".
Mustang Dyno (MD) is another company that offers an inertial brake dyno that can do variable loading; this dyno tends to spit out numbers that are lower than the DynoJet.
Then there is the DynaPak and Dyno Dynamics dyno's which require you to remove your wheels and bolt a (water) brake onto your hubs; these also tend to spit out numbers lower than the DynoJet.
So right there, that's 4 different dyno manufacturers.
I know of an "emissions" dyno that only does like 300hp max, but I dunno who makes it.
That makes 5.
I'm sure there are more out there.

Now, just to throw a wrench into the whole mess, some of the dyno's (i.e. MD) can be adjusted to mimic a DynoJet and read higher.
Implied is the fact that these adjustment can throw off the "true" reading and allow it to spit out bogus numbers.
The DynoJet can also be manipulated like this.

I noticed that you're not from the U.S.?
That's a whole nother variable to consider.

Now, THAT'S JUST THE DYNO's!

We haven't even gotten to your car yet!

As RacerXtreme7 mentioned, we don't even know what type of "T04" you have?
A "T04" could be as small as the stock Hitachi turbo, peaking to about 250hp or as humoungous as a T51 / GT45 series which have capabilites to push over 700hp+ on a 13B!
Now, that's a humungous spread!
Related to the turbo is the turbine A/R...divided or collected...what kind of turbo exhaust manifold...and even what kind of wastegate you're running?

How about control over everything?
Stock ECU?
Stand-alone EMS?
Who tuned it?
How aggressive is the ignition timing?

What about the engine?
Stock ports?
Ported?
How aggressive is the porting?
Who did the porting?

What about the exhaust?

What about the intake?

You see...there's a LOT of variables that factor in figuring out what kinda numbers you'll see.
The problem is that, it's all an educated guess.
You haven't answered even half of those questions, so trying to guess a number with what you've given us is really a short in the dark.

How about I answer: somewhere between 280hp and 500hp at the wheels?


-Ted