HAILERS

Just happy to have passed emissions in Texas with their new two speed roller emissions test. Got new cat at http://www.discountconverter.com/ to ensure I can drive the car. Jpg attached of the results.

FC Drifter

i am so gald i dont have to worry about passing emissions tests. i got all emisions equipment removed and i love it. big fire

spazzytroy

iTrader: (1)

Dude, you just need to come down here to Austin and have it done here. You can have your cats off and still pass emissions That and hookups arent hard to find either

BLK90TII

I thought Texas didn't give a sniff test. I thought all they did was check to see the cat was installed. Is the emissions sniff test a new thing for all of Texas?

Felix Wankel

Jefferson and Shelby counties are probably going to get a test in the next year or so

Good thing I live in St. Clair

FC Drifter

i live in mobile county so im not too worried for now. ill keep my pollution monster.

HAILERS

BLK90TURBOII.......In Texas it depends where you live. In Ft Worth/Dallas area we've been doing the sniff for at leat ten years. This year they got a bit more stringent and added a rolling test at 15 and then 25 mph as you can see on the jpg I attached to the first post. Prior to this year the just idled the car and stuck something up it rear end.

Now if I drive about fifteen miles to the south west, they don't even do the sniff test much less put the car on rollers at twenty five mph.

Here I live in the middle of the great American desert, flat as a pancake, and have to go thru the emissions test, but someone who lives in the GREAT NORTH EAST does not have to do diddley. NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE, something like that.

nwaco

Hailers, How in Sam's hell did you know you needed a new cat? I just swaped out a cat from one TII I had to another and I still read HC's of 660 PPM and failed (the limit being 220 PPM). The cat looked good inside and out, but it is several years old I guess. At what point do you give in and get a cat? Did you get a "high Flow" model?

HAILERS

NWACO.......I bought this car a year ago as a salvage vehicle. Rebuilt the engine blah, blah and did pass emissions last August. That was under the old emission rules. Just a sniff at idle from the Firestone dealer where I bought new tires.

I hate failure. When they announced the new rules last spring I shuddered. That cat looked and was original. So I ponyed up the bucks for a pre-cat and main cat from http://www.discountconverter.com/ . I used the same people for the wifes 86 a couple of years ago and hers still passes. Long way of saying I got scared into getting a new one by the new rules. I wouldn't know a good cat from a bad one if there was only one cat in the room and it had GOOD embossed on it.

Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I just took it off and stored it in a plastic air tight container for next year. Yes, I cheat and spoil the air we all breathe, but I boost about five more psi and smile a lot more without it on. ACV is going into storage tomorrow. Those things bake in a turbo and cost a bunch more than I like to spend.

I've been to Sicily and seen Mount Ettna spewing fumes 24hrs a day 7 days a week. Just throw my emissions in there with Mt Ettna. Darn, I think I mispelled Mt Ettna.

nwaco

So both my running TII's only had one cat each. The one I am trying to get to pass emissions had a gutted one I found. I swaped it out and still failed. Do you think I need both a main and a pre-cat? Or do you think one will pass it? I like your emission storage plan, and I think that's what I will do if I cough up the bucks for some cat(s).

HAILERS

I'll say that I THINK just the main cat will get you by emissions. But while I wrote that I asked myself *then why did I buy both the precat and main cat?*. Probably insurance against failing. I hate waiting to pass emissions. This day I sat there for two hours then THE MAN came out and told us waiters that his machine was broke, sorry. On to another place and more waiting. I spent four hours of my DAY OFF to do this. Don't wanna spend four hours and fail and have to do it all over again. I realize these cats cost bucks. I've been in the circumstances where there was noway on god's green earth that I could afford to spend that much money on a cat. Not the case at the momentl.

J-Rat

iTrader: (2)

Glad to see that some 7s are passing emissions!

HAILERS, I havent taken mine to the station yet, even though it has a new motor in it...I guess I am still a little gun-shy.

Rat

Six Rotors

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Hailers,glad you passed the Texas test but you would not have here in the far north.The standard here for HC is 86 ppm in the 25mph roller test.I would say your car is running quite rich in the high speed test.Mixture looks OK in th low speed test.

nwaco

I thought the "standards" were set so that the car could "pass" if it met the levels that it did when it was new? How is it that we have pretty much the same cars, but diferent standards? Were any of you ever told by a dealer the "HC" or "CO" or "HC + CO" levels of a car when you were buying it new? Does any of your owners manuals tell you how to measure and adjust these levels? Did any dealer ever inform you that you were going to have to ensure that your cars maintained these ficticious measurements in order to continue to operate it upon a public roadway? I am all for clean air, but I think that if we are going to have to prove this ****, the owners manuals ought to tell us how to measure and adjust it without having to wait in a line or pay a third party to measure it for us and when we do they make it a Fu*king public record. All the manuals say is if it fails, then start buying our fu*king parts at outrages prices then stand in line and pay to see if it worked??? Bastards!!!

Ok, I got it out of me.....

Barwick

wow.. my (stock at the time) '90 TurboII didn't pass emissions in Ohio.. and I mean it DIDN'T pass emissions.. we're talking double the limit. I pulled the cats and they both looked fine.. so I dunno what it was exactly, oh well.. they're gone now anyhow

Crazy4Rotary

Man I wish there wasn't any emissions crap here, we have the Californian strict smog rules. DAMn Canada

10TH_ANNIV_T2

Geez, so much recently on the emissions stuff. I kinda jumped on someone in another thread, so to be consistant....

Leave the cat in there. I know it robs some power, but it's the right thing to do even if you don't have emissions tests. And when I look at some of the mods these same people have, I don't buy the expense crap. There, I'll get off the soapbox now.

I do live in a county with the rolling dyno tests, and Yes, I did pass with a single cat (see sig). If you think about it, the smog tests are really just verifying that the engine is running efficiently. Our O2 sensors attempt to do the same thing to some degree by way of the ECU modifying injector pulses and other things based on it's signal. So a side benefit is a better running car and better gas mileage.

As far as performance goes, there are several high flow cats out there. Personally, I went with a Random Technologies, and they made one to my specs, but they also have a off the shelf fitment for FC's. I don't know what the life of a cat is, but I know mine was not in good shape after I put the new one in. I did the Borla first, not much change, the DP next, again, not much, lastly replaced the main cat. Wow.

Times are changing, and the next 20 years they are going to change again. We're going to see more hybrids, fuel cell technology, etc. If you want some emissions dodging monster, find something pre-1973. You know, from the good old days that you could tune by ear. I used to think there wasn't much to do with a FC, but the aftermarket has provided us with a whole new way to modify and tune. Yes, it's more expensive (everything is), but it's just as fun as it was with the old stuff.

One thing hasn't changed, car people are STILL car people. Always tinkering....

kristopher_d

leaving the cat in is not the right thing to do in and of itself. If emissions are of value to you, leaving the cat in is the right thing to do. Doing anything merely to placate those willing to excercise force against you is wrong. It's extortion. Actually, government is the only organization legally allowed to commit extortion. F*ck them. My car's stock, so keeping the emissions gear working properly is in my best interests because doing otherwise will result in exhaust clogs. As soon as I get a place in unincorporated King or Snohomish County (WA), I'll be going straight through.

HAILERS

SIX ROTORS......Ah! Thats the kind of input I was hoping for when I attached the printout of the emissions test. When I first glanced at the sheet I just said to myself *darn, I forgot to adjust the variable resistor to lean*, but I caught my mistake later and am just a little puzzled by why I'm running rich in the 25mph test. Its anybodys guess I reckon. Probably injectors and I'll take a look at the water thermo sensor in that car vs another car. If I move to Canada I'll buy another car. Thank you.

HAILERS

NWACO.....There is one thing that really bothers me a bit. This could be folk lore but........its my understanding that if I get curious about how well my emissions are working, and go to a inspection station to have the exaust tested, that if I fail, they will strip my sticker off even if the month of the inspection has not arrived. Thats a bothersome thought.

Now why anyone would go be inspected a couple of months prior to the requirement sounds like a ******** idea, but say you have a cat thats several years old and you have doubts about it. It seems prudent to see if you need a new one, then, instead of later when the sticker is due. No jumping thru hoops, no anxiety attacks, the ability to set aside money for a new cat and not disrupt your finances etc.

nwaco

Hailers, I have three TII's. I am in the process of getting one ready to sell. Up here in the High cost Northwest, If you have a car that you can prove will pass emissions, it is worth more, especially a rotary. The beast I have been sending through the line has a good sticker through March 03. I failed twice so far, and it is still licensed. BUT, we cannot transfer title to a new owner in general unless it can pass. There are a few exceptions, mainly "buying a car at an auction in which the auctioneers are based in an area in chich emissions are not required". Hows that for a tangle. I can just get a PO in one of those areas, and skip the tests, but its harder to get the top dollar out of the car either. I also in a way want to send it through to learn what it takes to get them running well, more for my own education than for complying with the BS laws.

nwaco

Ooop's hit the button twice.

peacekeeper

ALL TEXAS BOYS!!!!!
Come down to Austin! There is no sniff test because Austin meets federal and state smog regs unlike Houston and D-FW. Troy has just been lucky with the cat thing. If the exhaust isn't loud they don't even bother with a visual inspection. Take it easy.
Charles