skunks

has anyone done it yet? i have seen everything from skylines to murcilagos in full carbon but have not seen anything for a fc.

in anycase, im planning on doing it if i can find a fc for cheap from my friend.

x2delight

damn thats gonna be expensive....but would looks kinda cool

boosted1205

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Yea right. If you can live with the idiots in Hawaii that don't give a **** about other people's car and just swing the door open carelessly, then by all means.
I wouldn't do it on a daily driven car. Oh, you do know that Hawaii has the worst drivers as well right? You better make a few copies in case some idiot rear ends you quacking away on his/her cell.

skunks

nah, for me to do it is a cake walk

in anycase, im doing it because yes, hawaii has the worst drivers in the world. infact i just got rear ended and insurnace totalled my car haha im planning on putting a scoot hood on the fc with a fd front bumper and fenders which should efficitivly push out the fenders about 1 inch on each side.

BTW: cf dont dent, it might crack but with the kevlar, it should be ok (kevlar can bend in 1/2 without cracking)

this will be a full drift/daily driver, my personal crap car hehe!

dorifc3s

Thats nuts. They done like half Car fi (or more) on a GT-R

and one MR-S had an almost full CF body.

Expensive.

dubrc

that would be sweet. the only drawback i can see is if you leave it bare and it does get cracked, you can't just fill it in and paint it, it'd be a bitch to fix, but if you can pull it off, i say go for it, it'd be one killer fc

NZConvertible

Like most cars on the road, the FC's body is a monocoque. If you don't know what that is, give up on this idea now. If you do, you should know why it'll never happen.

skunks

it can be fixed fairly easily with the same stuff to fix windows when they crack

skunks

what in the hell are you talking about? never happen, why in gods name would it never happen?

BTW: if i can get a FC, it will definatly be happening as I will do it (I can/will wrap anything in CF/Kevlar)

NZConvertible

So in fact you're not making a carbon fibre body, you're just going to stick carbon fibre to the steel body?

Carbon fibre is used for racecars because it is very light for it's strength. A true carbon fibre body would be very light, but it would require massive technical expertise and huge funds. The carbon fibre cars you mentioned were build by professional race teams or car manufacturers with massive budgets.

Just sticking carbon fibre to a steel body will not have any advantages (and in fact will be a bit heavier), so I can only assume you're doing this purely for looks. Unless you're damn good at doing this I expect it'll look like crap. Personally I doubt it'll even happen...

skunks

first, yes it will only be a outer layer on the pillars/roof/rear fenders but the rest of the car will be CF (well if i feel like making the rest of the car out of cf).

secondly, covering the car in carbon does have advantages other then putting your FC to shame haha, I'm doing this as to coverup/protect against rust and dents as Kevlar will not dent! hell i doubt it will even crack asyou can bend it in 1/2 (why do you think vettes never rust , espeically in Hawaii!!!)

thirdly, i am good at doing this so it should turn out looking very nice

4th, weight will be just about the same as im stripping out the full inteior as well as sound deading and putting a carbon dash in to place.

5th, massive technical expertise??? not really, you just take the prepreg, cover the part loosly, vaccum pack that bastard and throw it into the autoclave, what is so hard about that? Hell you dont even gotta mix up and measure out the epoxy!

6th, the only way this will not happen is if i can't find someone to buy a set of gold kongi rims. They are 16X7 inches and have a good set of tires with a bolt pattern of 5X114.3 and an offset of about +35mm and/or a dual N1 exhaust system for a FC here in Hawaii (as shipping would be more then the parts probally haha)

7th, why in gods name would i attempt or take the time to make the frame/body out of full carbon? this particular FC will likely be crashed and totalled!!!

Elysian

vettes are fiberglass bodies, not carbon fiber, and they don't just coat metal with fiberglass like ur doing... so the chance of rusting will still be there, it will only be limited to stuff u can't see on the outside

skunks

yeah i know but i only plan on keeping the car for about a year anyways and it will probally be crashed/totalled (learning to drift is very dangerous and I don't give a **** about this FC, I care more about my FD which i have been putting at risk for about 2 years hehe) Also, I'm planning on using POR15 to seal the car before hand so it should be just fine for a year.

'Vert in Vegas

skunks:
I'm in agreement with NZConvertible
that you are over your head on this one.
I also doubt it will ever happen. If it does happen (CF over steel??) it will be a real abortion.
I'm not trying to turn this into a Flame war, but you sound like you don't know much.

andrew lohaus

i always thought when people made full cf cars they were REPLACING at least the body panels with cf that means you have to mold an exact coppy complete with mounting tabs ect. what good is shelaking the car with cf gona do? it not gona save weight as i would assume the point of doing cf body panels is.

andrew lohaus

ive worked with cf some so i know how hard it can be to take on complex shapes accurately. it would take lots of trial end error to get something that looked even marginal and damn near imposible to get it to look as finished as stock.

even cf car parts makers cant afford this level of development or they would have developed lines a long time ago.

skunks

hahahahaha apparnetly you have not worked with cf enuf!

skunks

please read the above why im doing this, the force is weak with this one!

skunks

it will be a real abortion??? i dont get it


BTW: i know more then you do

DomFD3S

I in the "you're way over your head" camp.

You do have to determine the proper amounts of epoxy to add to a given amount of raw carbon fiber (assuming wet lay-up technique). Adding too much epoxy is excess weight. Adding too little, will not yield the "full strength" potential of the carbon fiber. (I'm assuming that you have access to an autoclave out in Hawaii). Why do you think they have those automatic measuring devices for given amounts of epoxy?

How do you propose to keep your carbon fiber dash attached to your mainly carbon fiber shell/body? Long screws? If so,...you need to plan how you intend for screws/bolts/nuts to be set into the body.

You're right that carbon fiber will not dent. It cracks (brooms). So you really have no idea when the carbon fiber will break due to long term fatigue. In every application that I've seen the use of carbon fiber (military, motorsports, commercial aircraft, etc.),...the carbon fiber parts are replaced frequently. Unlike a regular street car. Therefore, the longterm use of carbon fiber...is questionable.

Also, if you are expecting the FC to be crashed/totalled...then why go through the trouble of wrapping the body in carbon fiber in the first place? Too much trouble for something that will be damaged eventually.

I wouldn't use carbon fiber in the manner in which you are proposing. Good luck in your endeavors,...but I wouldn't do it.

'Vert in Vegas

Quote:

BTW: i know more then you do

OK.
I await the finished project.
Maybe once a month I will bump this to the top again.

skunks

SpeedFreak03

Man if I did that, my car would NEVER EVER see the street! CF is a bitch to fix usually and if the whole car is wrapped in it, then it wouldnt be too cheap if u get in a fender bender...

skunks

OK.
I await the finished project.
Maybe once a month I will bump this to the top again. [/B][/QUOTE]


if i can sell the rims+exhuast, ill have it dont very quickly. know anybody in hawaii which wants gold kongi rims with good tires for 600 bucks or a N1/look alike exhuast system for a fc for 100-200 bucks?

'Vert in Vegas

This project is off to a good start.
You have a questionable plan, no car and no money.
Other than that everything is set.