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Old 08-09-09, 06:24 PM
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Question Finding what is what? (with pics)

Hello, Im trying fo find what is wrong in my car maybe you can help me once again.

My car is a s5 mazda rx7

I have a block off plate inside this part Im pointing, I couldnt take a good pic of the block off plate, but it is inside..... what suppose to goes there inside, egr??



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No there's no EGR in an S5. It's probably the BAC valve that I can tell from your pictures
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Or not? I think the BAC valve might be farther in. Is it under the lower intake manifold?
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Originally Posted by blackedoutFC3S
Or not? I think the BAC valve might be farther in. Is it under the lower intake manifold?
yeap its under this, inside.... Im sure its not the bac valve
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I hitnk this is the acceleration cable for cruise control, not sure.... This affects my car like this?? the cable is not tight as you see

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what is this hose for, where it goes, it comes from this black cilinder, this affects my car?

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and this tube, where it comes from? I dont know what is it, maybe is a crack tube

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#1 is the cruise control cable. That one doesn't appear to be properly on the cam it pulls.

#2 looks like the drain (or vent, not sure which) for the charcoal canister...it doesn't connect to anything.

#3 might be the air feed for the cat.
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Download the FSM and get acquainted with it. That will answer 90% of your problems if you search good enough. If you don't know what "FSM" means then go to the FAQ on the top of the 2nd Gen Tech section and read it.
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As far as I saw the FSM it seem thats what I need, what part is that?? I didnt find it, or maybe I just didnt search well....


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What the hell did this have to do with the GTUs thread... ??
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Originally Posted by luyo
As far as I saw the FSM it seem thats what I need, what part is that?? I didnt find it, or maybe I just didnt search well....


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That's the EGR found only on series four non turbo cars. It's not required for the operation of the car. It will NOT help during and emissions test either.

Only non turbo intermediate housings had a opening for a EGR valve.

If your car has a blockoff plate in the place of the EGR, then your series five engine is a hodge podge of parts and not a stock series five engine. If you have a series five intermediate housing and are using a series four upper intake manifold, the ACV would also be useless because the ACV passage(s) on the sereies four imtermediate housing won't mate with the ACV discharge passage in the series five upper intake manifold.

Lot of other *stuff* won't be right either. I recommend surrendering unconditionally. Buy a Smart car and be done with it.

I'd bet your engine is series four and not series five. Take a picuture of your intake manifold and we can tell if that's the case.

If the cruise control cable is loose, then it can't effect the engine/throttle plates. That cable is adjustable both at the place your hand is and at the cruise control unit itself (jam nuts).
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Lot of other *stuff* won't be right either. I recommend surrendering unconditionally. Buy a Smart car and be done with it.
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I dont even see you describing a problem. What IS the problem for you car?

I agree with the possibility of it being an s4 block and s5 intake, the coolant neck isnt plastic o.0
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Tell me if that pic is ok or If you need a better pic to check it....

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That's series five non turbo dynamic chamber and throttle body. If your intermediate housing has a EGR blockoff plate on it, I suggest your ACV will never work right. Ain't possible due to the different air passages b/t the upper intake manifold and the intermediate housing.

Then again, the ACV should have little to do with the actual running of the engine since it's emissions related and does not feed air into the combustion chambers (with some small exceptions concerning the anti backfire valve inside the ACV that during deceleration feeds air into the intake runners).

How 'bout removing the dynamic chamber and taking a picuture of the place with the blockoff plate your referring to??
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
That's series five non turbo dynamic chamber and throttle body. If your intermediate housing has a EGR blockoff plate on it, I suggest your ACV will never work right. Ain't possible due to the different air passages b/t the upper intake manifold and the intermediate housing.

Then again, the ACV should have little to do with the actual running of the engine since it's emissions related and does not feed air into the combustion chambers (with some small exceptions concerning the anti backfire valve inside the ACV that during deceleration feeds air into the intake runners).

How 'bout removing the dynamic chamber and taking a picuture of the place with the blockoff plate your referring to??
this block off plate its inside and since Im not a mechanic or anything similar, and I dont wanna mess my car more that it seems to be I cant do that unless I say to my mechanic and let him do what he told, about put and egr in this block off plate (that will make work all the vacuum) and take off the actuators.

Maybe I can try a better pic of the engine if you want??

thank you for the helping since we dont have that experience that you have with rx7 `s.
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I may have to eat some crow on what I said above about the ACV air.

It depends on what the series five NON TURBO intermediate housing looks like on the right side of the engine. The jpg I post out of the Series five ENGINE manual leaves a lot to be desired.

On reassy of the engine, it shows both a round hole below the primary intake holes and a rectangular hole below the primary intake holes.

On a series FOUR non turbo, there is a round hole with a *freeze plug* covering that hole, so that hole is functionless. But if the hole on the series five is rectangular as shown in the jpg attached, then it feeds ACV air to the exhaust ports.

So I'm asking someone with a series five NON TURO intermediate housing and intake manifold, this question. Is the hole below the intake ports on the intermediate housing round with a plug in the hole? or is the hole below the primary intake ports rectangular and does it mate with a rectangular hole in the intake manifold? Look at the attached jpg and the words/question I wrote on that picture.

If the hole on a series FIVE has a plug in it, then there should be no problem using a series four intermediate housing on the series five engine as far as the function of the ACV goes and the blockoff plate you mention on top of the intermediate housing won't make any difference.
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
I may have to eat some crow on what I said above about the ACV air.

It depends on what the series five NON TURBO intermediate housing looks like on the right side of the engine. The jpg I post out of the Series five ENGINE manual leaves a lot to be desired.

On reassy of the engine, it shows both a round hole below the primary intake holes and a rectangular hole below the primary intake holes.

On a series FOUR non turbo, there is a round hole with a *freeze plug* covering that hole, so that hole is functionless. But if the hole on the series five is rectangular as shown in the jpg attached, then it feeds ACV air to the exhaust ports.

So I'm asking someone with a series five NON TURO intermediate housing and intake manifold, this question. Is the hole below the intake ports on the intermediate housing round with a plug in the hole? or is the hole below the primary intake ports rectangular and does it mate with a rectangular hole in the intake manifold? Look at the attached jpg and the words/question I wrote on that picture.

If the hole on a series FIVE has a plug in it, then there should be no problem using a series four intermediate housing on the series five engine as far as the function of the ACV goes and the blockoff plate you mention on top of the intermediate housing won't make any difference.

Can I see this hole just taking out the block off plate thats is where it suppose to go the ACV ?? Or I need to take off the intake manifold??

*I dont know if it helps but, my actuators dont work since I think its for the ACV and air pump missing ..... and as far as I know the actuators on series 4 dont need the ACV to work, they work without ACV....

So my engine is a series 5 stock or am I wrong?
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