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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by hondahater
nope just sounds more thoughty. The only reason I say this stuff about hondas are because I owned a prelude 97' and man no matter what I did it was slow! intake exhaust blah blah blah!!! but the nice thing about the 7 is that it was just askin' to be modded from day one!
Hey smartguy....you owned a prelude...enuff said!!

Okay, my .02

The rsx-s will/does have traction issues being fwd, they have a healthy power band but.....No torque, and i am pretty sure they out weight the tII by a few hundred pounds...

The tII has the launch advantage being FR, They also have similar rated hp (right around 200).

I think there are too many variables to make an educated guess....eg: tires, drivers, mods.

Stock on stock i have my money on the tII ......... and i am an avid honda fan!!


I say race him and let us know! Don't be scared
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by SideWindeRx7
they suck off the line? must just be yours.
No, was mine and also a guy who owns (literally) 30 RX-7's now (not all running, some are parts cars for his multiple race cars FB's and FC's), and had the same opinion. His '89 GTU-S was way faster than his TurboII he had off the line.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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You guys need "launch lessons"
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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xrated. I don't know what you quoted me for? Are you saying I don't know what I'm talking about? I don't really give a **** what you meant I just know that the obd2 on new cars are horrible for modding. Basicaly any mod you do (intake or exhaust), the onboard diagnostics system adjusts itself to original settings (ex. airflow) That is why if you look on ebay all the honda people get obd1's to change out with their original obd2.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Why dont you just go race him, then post the results, so we all dont hear 40 + "opinions"
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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stock to stock both cars are very close. the TII has the torque, the type S has the high rpm power. in stock form, the TII has a slightly lower 1/4 mile time...it'd be a close race.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Getting times of the internet is pretty pointless. They are always severely biased in my experience. I just go off what I've seen on teh streets. TII would win.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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TII would win..Hondas suck on takeoff..7's are the best on takeoff once you get going he cant catch up
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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my buddy has an Rsx-S

I took him for a ride, and he immediately was wowed by the T2

Admitted to me that he didn't think there was any way he'd beat me.

I didn't have many mods at that point. Intake and cat back exhaust
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Oh btw, if a GTU launched better then a TII, then the owner of the TII isn't launching right. You can't launch it like an N/A
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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aren't 6 speeds supposed to be not as good for dragging? u spend more time shifting b/c u get through ur powerband faster, whereas in a 5 speed, you spend more time in gear
that's tru if you've got mad torque to back you up, but on a factory car, the lower ratio of all the gears gives you better gearing, much the same as putting a set of smaller diameter tires or a lower ratio rear end. in this sense, any factory 6 speed will be quicker than it's 5 speed counterpart.

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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It really depends on what kind of racing you are talking about.
For example, FF has the definate advantage in cornering through tight corners in the rain. Therefore, advantage would be given to the int., if the battle stage is chosen to be auto-X in a severe storm.
However, if it were to be relatively high speed track racing, Turbo'd , FR FC would have an advantage.
Drag isnt the only type of racing, ya know
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by dubrc
any factory 6 speed will be quicker than it's 5 speed counterpart.

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I seriously doubt that, the quickest shifter in the world cannot best .5 seconds to shift from one gear to the next, don't know about the RSX-S` situation but if you put a 5-speed against a 6 and the gearing was the same or similar the 5 would most likely take it, shift .5 seconds is a lot.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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i ran a rsx-s on the freeway, and he couldnt hang with me at all... of course i have a few mods but i dont think it makes THAT big a diff... once i hit 100 i just walked him...
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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make sure you can launch well with a turbo. Launching an NA car is soooo much easier.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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HohdaHater- I see you really know your honda's


Anyways-
I have raced many rsx-s, and i have raced tII's. I don't have a tII yet but i have had 2 fd's. The tII's always launch quick with a good footed driver....basically anyone who can drive a turbo car well.... The rsx is heavier which doesn't help. I think the rsx is quick but i give the tII its just do! Ecspecially if they both have basic mods (intake/exhaust).
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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whos to say if the kid doesn't have the stock tyres and not every one is a crazy psycho driver as yourself some of us like to treat our cars nicley
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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actual the average shift time is 1/4 of a second so in a quarter mile drag usually in a five speed the shifting adds a second to your time.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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The RSX-S will lose!

I have raced both cars with my FD...

I raced a TII and beat him by 5 cars. I raced a RSX-S and beat it by 20 cars...

My time in the 1/4 mile is 13.9 sec
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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why is this in the 2nd gen section?? Throw this back in kills.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Hi There,
Over here in my region, every stone hurled out will most likely hit a honda, and the NA V-tecs are insanely quick. They run the 2lt blocks from the crv with a b16 ported head with Jun stage 3 cams and all the other stuffs in a fully lightened EG body. Some with open individual TB are producing up to 300+hp at flywheel. If we are to compare a stock TII or even mildly mod TII, it'll not stand a chance due to power to weight ratio. But in the case of a stock RSX( Is called an Integra over here) against a stock TII, all depends on the driver. I think. As I have a buddy that has smoked an RSX and a WRX(220bhp) in second gear. So I think it's rather hard to judge.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fumanchu
No.
t2 title yo
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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http://www.badog.com is run by a friend of mine, an rsx-s owner, and a badass one at that. I think that he's got videos of himself (black type-s) and of an almost stock type-s (white) with a sri and coilover sleeves at the 1/4 track.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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I had a 2002 Acura RSX Type S. I had intake/ACT Clutch-pressureplate/short-throw/yokohama AVS tires. And yes, it can pull on a TII FC. I've only driven stickshift for 8 months(i'm 17 yrs old) but I took it to the track and pulled a 14.7@94mph. Stock for stock it might be closer. If you want to have the best chance to win, do not run from a roll. Go from a stop; FWD cars are HARD to launch, you must feather perfectly. This is especially true for the RSX-S, since it has no torque down-low, you try to launch at as high an rpm as possible but then you must perfectly control wheelspin/hop...With equal drivers, stock for stock, you can take him if he messes up the launch. On the stock tires, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. The Michelin Energy's are pieces of crap!!!


Anyhow, I totaled my RSX-S two weeks ago.

So now I'm looking for an FC or an FD to take to college. Does anyone have recommendations?

I hear RX7s should have certain reliability mods before doing performance mods. So far, stuff I have on the list is radiator, ast, silicone hoses, boost gauge, downpipe...Sound okay???

About how long do the Mazda Remanufactured engines last? I'm looking at a black FD3 that has 8k miles on the engine. Think it'll last at least 60-70k?

Aight...Later
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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