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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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fc3s TII against rsx type s

Not exactly a kill just for a piece of mind. My friend has a rsx type s (stock) and I was wondering could on a fc (stock) could take it on.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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would you like to explain
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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The RSX has 200 hp and a six speed tranny. It can stay in it's powerband really well with that tranny. Its a brand new car, runs perfect and is about the same weight as a FC.


Since in your profile, it says you have a '91. If it was a t2, you would have mentioned it. So a n/a FC in '91 had 160hp. Being that the car is over 13 years old, I highly doubt is has perfect compression and suspension, making it less than 160hp and suspension is a big deal off the line.


I highly doubt, you will beat it unless you friend just learned how to drive stick yesterday.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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Since in your profile, it says you have a '91. If it was a t2, you would have mentioned it.
Reading comprehension is your friend.

It says TII in the title.

RSX-S 15.4
TurboII 14.9

Whether your car is in good enough shape is up in the air, but there are mint stock TurboIIs that can still run stock times. I know, I've done it.

So yes, to answer the original question, yes, a stock TurboII could take it on.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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Err... he said he had a T2... From specs which I have come across, a Stock RSX is faster than a stock T2. However, I think it will be close.
In the 8th however.... you will have a really good chance.

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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Yeah, okay, I did some more searching and came up with 14.8.

0.1 difference, so yes, my answer still stands, a TurboII can take it on. The driver makes the biggest difference.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:27 AM
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Yeah, okay, I did some more searching and came up with 14.8.

0.1 difference, so yes, my answer still stands, a TurboII can take it on. The driver makes the biggest difference.
I am calling a drivers race on this one too. It also depends on what you are starting from: A complete stop the tII will have the advantage due to its better powerband, and from a roll i actually have no clue because i do not exactly know the efficiency of the tII's turbo at such high rpms (but i suspect it is good), and high rpms is where the rsx really has the meatiest piece of powerband which stock produces somewhere around mid 170 whp.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by neofreak
Reading comprehension is your friend.

It says TII in the title.

RSX-S 15.4
TurboII 14.9

Whether your car is in good enough shape is up in the air, but there are mint stock TurboIIs that can still run stock times. I know, I've done it.

So yes, to answer the original question, yes, a stock TurboII could take it on.

SOOOORRRRRRYYYYYY. It's late and my contacts are sticking to my eyes.


I still think the RSX would win. There is no way after 13 years a TII will be able to run that time unless the person has replaced a lot of stuff. Even more so in a turbo model.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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aren't 6 speeds supposed to be not as good for dragging? u spend more time shifting b/c u get through ur powerband faster, whereas in a 5 speed, you spend more time in gear
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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I used to own a TII and now I own a RSX-S. Sorry but I think you'll be pulled if the RSX has a GOOD driver that's not afraid to go up to 8200 rpm on each shift and shift it hard. I get into races ALL THE TIME with people that think "just some kinda souped up civic with VTEC" and then are quite pissed when I keep up or win against a "better" car.

Your best chance if you know how to launch is from a dead stop up to around 80 mph I think. On the highway, the RSX 6 speed will prove to be too much of an advantage over 100 mph I think.

Good luck and let us know how it comes out!

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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my COMPLETELY stock 91 t2 ran a 14.5 on my first run ever at a track, 2 years ago. Granted its engine did only have about 20k miles on a rebuild from the previous owner.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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age has nothing to do with it as long as its maintained well, i ran a 16.0 at 85 mph when my FB was stock and the post stock times for FB's are like 16.7, a turbo II with a good driver will beat an rsx-s anyday of the week.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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I tell you what! lets have some fun! get an exhaust and intake on both the cars and see who wins. The acuras and hondas don't really add very much power with those mods however with turbo back exhaust and an intake (fcd required of course) your turbo will then be seeing numbers closer to 8-10psi instead of 5.5. and you got the hole setup for well under 10k when his car costs how much?
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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I completely disagree... I think a nicely running TII vs a new RSX-S with a psycho driver (like me) will be very very close.

Keep in mind that the magazine times on the RSX-S are on POS Mud/Snow rated all season stock tires. They SUCKED so I got rid of them and put on Bridgestone RE-750 which give you a lot more traction in 1st and 2nd gears (for a faster 1/4 mile).

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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hmmm you all have interesting points. He just got a short ram intake, if that changes anything at all.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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wargasm, do you have an RSX? You dig?
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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nope just sounds more thoughty. The only reason I say this stuff about hondas are because I owned a prelude 97' and man no matter what I did it was slow! intake exhaust blah blah blah!!! but the nice thing about the 7 is that it was just askin' to be modded from day one!
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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ok, speaking from personal experience, if you know how to drive your car, you should be fine. I raced one of the line and smoked it, then we got on the freeway and he wanted to run again, closer but yet I still was pulling. Now maybe he didn't know how to drive, but when your freeway racing it's not to hard, down shift and floor it. plus I've driven one and the just feel slow compared to the 7
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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$150FC - Yes I've had an RSX-S for the last 22 months and put 48,000 miles on it already. I beat the living HELL out of this car. I mean I TRY to destroy it as much as possible. It has held up well, but now that the warranty is almost up at 50k, I am going to get rid of it. It is MUCH faster than most people realize __IF__ you drive it like you hate it. If you go to only 7000 rpm, you're missing a LOT of the fun. You need to wind that thing out to 8200 every shift.

If the TII has ANY mods, even small ones, my money is on the TII.

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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by hondahater
I tell you what! lets have some fun! get an exhaust and intake on both the cars and see who wins. The acuras and hondas don't really add very much power with those mods

He wants to know how well they stand up to TIIs... So why would you want to make the race have mods that give the advantage to the TII and not really to the RSX?
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Slacker7
Err... he said he had a T2... From specs which I have come across, a Stock RSX is faster than a stock T2. However, I think it will be close.
In the 8th however.... you will have a really good chance.
I'd put money on the TurboII on the highway... TurboII's suck off the line (at least mine did) but on the freeway they pull like nuts in 4th (at least mine did).
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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they suck off the line? must just be yours.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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how many miles are on your t2? what kind of shape is it in? Do you have good tires? How long have you been driving a stick shift?

If you really want to take him, but don't have much money, get a down pipe, and TID. Your car will thank you.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Re: fc3s TII against rsx type s

Originally posted by ManGaZeRo
Not exactly a kill just for a piece of mind.
Then it shouldn't be in the kills section.
Off to the 2nd Gen section with you.
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