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Old 09-06-04, 07:49 PM
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fc non turbo 2 a tii

I have found a fc for 300$, has no rust, no dings or dents, paint is in good condition, but it is a automatic (rebuilt 3000miles ago With all the paper work that it was done). Planning on selling the auto for manual, How much money could i get out of the tranny??

The car has a blown apex seal and dosent start.

I would like to conver it to a turbo 2 (motor trans diff) where could i get the parts?? how much will it cost me? and is it worth 300$ and putting the money into it to make it turbo??

Edit: it is a 88 with 120xxx miles on it. i will be doing all the work my self.

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the tranny might get you $50, no one wants one.

And the swap will prolly end up well over $1000.
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The swap total will cost u about 4000. motor, trans, rear end, dp/mp, ecu and harness.
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4000 dosent seem bad, Is it worth buying the car for 300$ and doing this or should i just wait to find a real tii?? Like i said before the car shell is in great condition.
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If the body/interior is in really good condition, and you have the money, I'd go for it. Then again, a nice T2 will cost you 5-6k, so you should ask yourself if the labor is worth saving a max of $1700.
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well i love working on cars, love the feeling that i did that, i have a great knowledge of cars also.
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well buy a T2 with a blown motor....have it rebuilt for 1500 bux........then do all the work and spend 800 bux in parts to replace, and you have a T2.......

GTUs shell=700 bux
parts and my labor=700 bux
I already had a T2 though.....and it had 16K on reman....so It was easier for me....
Everything I needed was from my old T2 and then I parted it out to make money.......I did all the work myself so labor= food and drinks for my buddy and my GF who helped me do the swap.

EDIT: oh and save another 500 on top of what I said for unexpected expenses....that's why my GTUs is ALMOST done......I need random little **** that I have no money for.....

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would it be easyier to find a blown 1 or a rear wrecked tii?? Who did your rebuild?? (Debating if i could do a rebuild, Have the tools and time (do they have videos that help?) How much for a rebuild kit??).
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Doing a rebuild is a great way to learn more about ur car, I would highly recommend it if u feel u know what ur doing. Definately get the video. When I did (still am) mine I bought the Rebuild Kit C from Atkins, comes w/ all the seals and gaskets for the whole motor. If ur going to tear into it u might as well replace all the little crap. For 300 bux u can buy that car. Then see if u can find a wrecked or non-running TII. That way u have a daily also. And 2 Sevens are better than 1.
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already have a daily driver (mazda 626 ) ,but 2 rx's r great. Want to know if you think i have the knowledge to do a rebuild and the convershion, I have done a sr20det swap on a 240sx (did the whole front end j pec- has the square headlites now not the flip ups, also it is right hand drive now.) have done 3 honda motor swaps, have also rebuilt a couple of nissan motors Ka24's (think they are 2.4l i forget.)
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Yeah I think u can do it. I helped my friend do a sr20 in his 240...it was fun.
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remember to that the base model fc was also almost what 600lbs less and doesnt have all the power controls to die on ya.
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for the tans, driveshaft, and rear diff, should i get t2 stuff or like a kaaz diff?? whats the price diffrence on the stock and that one?? do i have to use the t2 driveshaft or can i keep the na one?? Will a na tranny mount up to a turbo motor?? Is the a difference in gearing in a na and turbo model trans??
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any one have any info on the last post??
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I am almost complete with my 1991 NA coupe to TII. I spent well, over $4500 for all the parts. Good working parts that look good too. You have to basically use everything thats TII. The engine, tranny, lsd rear end, driveshaft, halfshaft axles, ecu, and TII harness. U need all that stuff. I busted a mission for my ****. Did I forget to mention TII Hood unless you go front mount which will cost even more? Well, its alot better getting a Jspec than getting a TII which will have like 100k and been raced out. Unless you want to get a TII dats already rebuilt that will cost you well over $6K and up. Depends on the money u want to spend. I heard a lot of Jspec is bad, but mine had good compression. I jus hope my Jspec will pass emissions when it comes around.
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I'm doing mine out of my TII into my GXL. Then the GXL parts go into the TII. TII shell is crappy and the GXL has a good paint job. I'm also purchasing more parts because I want to even though its taking longer. So far its been fun and dirty, but this is the kinda **** I enjoy. Its a good experience.
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Originally Posted by DjRannyKan
would it be easyier to find a blown 1 or a rear wrecked tii?? Who did your rebuild?? (Debating if i could do a rebuild, Have the tools and time (do they have videos that help?) How much for a rebuild kit??).
MAZDA did my rebuild.... I would not get a rear wrecked TII becuase you will need the whole subframe(much easier to do it that way IMO)
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for the tans, driveshaft, and rear diff, should i get t2 stuff or like a kaaz diff?? whats the price diffrence on the stock and that one?? do i have to use the t2 driveshaft or can i keep the na one?? Will a na tranny mount up to a turbo motor?? Is the a difference in gearing in a na and turbo model trans??
I dropped the whole rear end.......motor+ tranny together, then the driveshaft+whole subframe together...you can use the NA driveshaft but it is much thinner and weaker...you can use the NA tranny as long as you use an NA clutch, but again, I would not trust it's strength. The main differences are in the internals and their strengths
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let me show you what I did:

My old TII:



then I bought this GTUs:



and USED EVERYTHING OFF MY OLD TII to get this:






I could not salvage my TII hood as you can see, and my GTUs came with an NA hood.....at the moment I am using my Friend's white hood until I can buy a black hood, or get an FMIC.......
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this is how I did the rear end......as you can see....I took it off in one piece and I installed it the same way.....
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like I said earlier: save a little extra money for **** you are not expecting........right now I am still trying to get the car to run right(bad idle, timing is off and I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG.....I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN THE FSM TOO BTW) then my oil leak, and some minor electrical( headlight motors dont work, and then I have no interior lights or turn signals{tthe emergency blinkers turn on my RIGHT turn signal}the seatbelts dont move.......then I need an FMIC so I can return the hood....etc. etc.) have extra money or you will be 99% finished but unable to continue, like me)
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will i need a whole car harness or just the engine harness??
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no a turbo drive shaft will only mate to a turbo trans and diff. i tried and found out.
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we need to make a sticky for these, n/a to TII conversion threads.....
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Originally Posted by DjRannyKan
will i need a whole car harness or just the engine harness??
engine harness and ECU....body is the same except for the boosgauge(which you should replace anyways).....
Originally Posted by rx7jake
no a turbo drive shaft will only mate to a turbo trans and diff. i tried and found out.
I never tested the N/A Automatic driveshaft to the TII tranny so I don't know if it is true that they fit(used for aGTUs with a TII engine/tranny with NA automatic Driveshaft into GTUs 4.3 rear end)

Edit: Mazdatrix sells a Driveshaft for this application: (driveshaft section, very bottom) http://mazdatrix.com/g4.htm >>>>>>>>>http://mazdatrix.com/getprice.asp?partnum=2691-000

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thanks for all the replies guys gunna go buy the car wendsday or thursday.


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