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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Fabrication ideas

I see and read alot of ideas for new products for our cars....

If anyone has an idea they would like to see come to life, I have access to plastic injection molding machines (110-500 ton).

Anyone running a store or having connections with a company into building new parts, contact me. We can discuss the possibility of starting up something.

Also, if anyone knows or has access to any molds for currently produced parts, contact me for a price quote. I may be able to reduce production costs and therefore decrease the prices of parts (dual gauge pods, stereo surrounds, etc.)
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:24 AM
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This and gp sports side skirts would look sweet I think

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:56 AM
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Not a fan of the lights, but thats defeinetly an aggresive looking bumper. If it were slimmed down a bit and retained the Factory pop ups id be more of a fan
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:03 AM
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it looks like a Z32 bumper eh?
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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I really like this exposed headlight setup made by RE Amemiya.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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I like the kit ideas, but the bumpers are going to require a much larger press than what I have access to.....

I was thinking smaller (such as headlight covers, interior plastic, engine dress-up items, etc.)
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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Clear turn signal lenses (as the DSpeed ones are hard to come by...I also heard a RUMOR that DSpeed was out of business..true or not, I don't know).

Clear parking lights (the red and yellow ones located at the front and rear along the sides of the car).

BTW, make sure you include screws that are rust proof. I've seen cheaply made ones that have screws which rust over time.

Something cheesy, yet RX-7ish....maybe a rotor shaped side marker.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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audiofight I have had some ideas and some proto types for some replacement door panels because they are heavy are a easy weight reducer drop me a email at sean1_54@yahoo.com
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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Stereo surround that doesn't break (ie. urathane). Trust me, you will sell thousands (I'll take 5). BUT PLEASE do not get our hopes up unless you are really serious. I have lost count of the number of people who make posts like this and then disappear.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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i second the radio surounds, id take atleast two
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Third for the radio surrounds and second for not getting our hopes up.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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I have the plant and access to low-cost production equipment. What I am having a hard time coming across is the money to finance the molds in order to make these parts cheap enough to sell. The mold is where the big money is at in the initial setup.

The side marker lenses, rotor shaped side markers, stereo surrounds, etc. are all possible.

The other thing I have to be careful about is the rights Mazda holds over the OEM parts, making sure to change the design slightly so it is a different part.

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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It would be cheaper to Vaccum-mold items such as gaugepods and radiosurrounds.
Molds for Vaccum-forming can be made relatively cheap
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Audiofight
I have the plant and access to low-cost production equipment. What I am having a hard time coming across is the money to finance the molds in order to make these parts cheap enough to sell. The mold is where the big money is at in the initial setup.

The side marker lenses, rotor shaped side markers, stereo surrounds, etc. are all possible.

The other thing I have to be careful about is the rights Mazda holds over the OEM parts, making sure to change the design slightly so it is a different part.

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OK, you didnt like the bumper suggestion, now you need money to do the parts suggested, AND, now your worried about Mazda. My question is why did you even ask us for our input?
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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make elaborate radio/logicon surrounds, then mazda can't sue.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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what hes trying to get across to us is that he can only do smaller items, and of course hes going to need like down payments on the items to fund it, and he just doesnt want to get sued by copying the exact OEM mazda parts because there are laws for those kind of things... stop having such a negative attitude...

and i also agree with the stereo surround idea!
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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So whats your point, he killed the small items becasue of Mazda. Whats left? You have been around for 680 posts, how many have you read where someone had this grreat idea or resources and wants to sell stuff to us AND it never happens? If he is doing plastic injection, he is limited in what he can do. Radio surronds are the money maker, I think we all agree. Anythinge else, well, either its been done (guage pods) or few needed (shifter surrounds and alike).

I was just pointing out that good ideas where given and killed.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Sounds like a scam, like he's leading up to asking for money and then running with it.

Say, whatever happened to Mr. Tesla turbine supercharger?

If he can really make this stuff for cheap, that'd be great. If it doesn't happen, I won't be suprised.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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I am not asking for up-front money from anyone.

Second, I put forth that I don't have access to 1000-1500 ton presses to make the larger body kits, just smaller ones.

As for making clear lenses, I can do it, as long as I change the grid design from a rectangular grid to say....honeycomb shaped. That would allow me to mold whatever I wanted.

As for vacuum-molding, my uncle works in a plant that has both vacuum-molding and some injection molding. My father works and is a partner in a plastic injection molding plant with access to machines up to 500 ton.

I have been researching the possibility of making the molds for the clear side markers and it is too costly to go after.

In order to make clear plastic parts, the mold has to be made of hardened steel with a very high polish. These molds can run upwards of 40k-50k dollars. Not worth the time and money to do it.

Vacuum molding some surrounds (with an "RX-7") imprinted in them along a cross-brace eliminates the Mazda suing me aspect and allows me to try and pursue.

If people want to continue to accuse me of theft or wrong-doing, fine. Look into my history. I originated the famous "How to Make a Beefy N/A" thread and found the U-joints for our OEM driveshafts. I have given my contributions to this board, I have nothing to prove. I was looking for suggestions at possibly producing something new, that was all. Ideas. No money or anything like that. I was also hinting at a possible partnership with anyone running a store or business that is into selling aftermarket parts like that, but that would be a business-to-business venture.....not personal.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Audiofight
Vacuum molding some surrounds (with an "RX-7") imprinted in them along a cross-brace eliminates the Mazda suing me aspect
Be careful, if you sell something with the RX-7 logo on it it may be copyright infringement. I think Honda just cracked down on a lot of aftermarket companies that used the Honda "H" without a license from them to do so.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on that. I tossed in the "RX-7" part as a suggestion to how to make a minor change that would allow me to reproduce the parts legally.

I could also imprint something like "Rotary powered" or whatever. Just to help the idea generation. I will be in contact with my uncle next week to see how much it would be to setup a vacuum mold for the radio surround and to produce them.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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i am currently building a kit for the seven, and am getting somewhat done with the front end that i have paintshopped in this pic...but what advantage would i have giving my bumper to you to mold?
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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Talking about urathane stereo surround. Just purchased a FC last week and found the surround piece made from urathane. Hope the pics come out. Will find out more info in these items.
chuck
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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I have been researching the possibility of making the molds for the clear side markers and it is too costly to go after.

In order to make clear plastic parts, the mold has to be made of hardened steel with a very high polish. These molds can run upwards of 40k-50k dollars. Not worth the time and money to do it.

Are you sure about that? I have done CNC work in the injection mold business. We did first run tools. These are made of aluminum and used while the "Steel" tool is being manufactured. It gets your product to market faster. An aluminum tool will make the same part a steel tool will it just will not take the same number of "hits".

A turn signal lens is a simple part. Without any major deep cavities or ribs in the tool. I bet you could get 10,000 hits with the tool.

I could build the model and design the split and cooling for the mold.

-billy
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I was bored at work today. Here you go - a jpg of the model. Ready for inserting in a mold blank.



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