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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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Question For everyone with no power steering...

did you rip out your ac too? im in the midst of taking out all the power steering lines and was wondering if i should take out the ac compressor too since its in the way. i cant get to the lines on the rack since its in the way.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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mine came with no PS so i cant comment on that but if power is what you wanted then i noticed a nice change when i had my AC out.... much more responsive. hope that helps
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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does a base model with no power steering have a different braket then the ones with power steering?
if so i want one now !
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Yes I think I have seen a few, My Jspec turbo engine had one.

A turbo car would be the best bet for these brackets, I think anyways
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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N E ONE SELLIN ONE?!!!!
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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That extra metal on the bracket will only make it weight an extra 5 lbs at the most. Don't sweat it Jack, just add some nitrous.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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If you want to keep your A/C, just unbolt it from the bracket, and move it out of the way, leave the lines attached, though.

I kept my A/C.........I want my car to be fast, but I also want to be comfortable on those hot days when I'm not racing.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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I kept my AC, it's too hot in the south during the summer.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Thaats what the Fresh Air Vents are for. I rely on them exclusively. Lose the A/C If you wanna.

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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I'm sure it's a bit of a different climate in Hawaii than it is in Toronto.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Thaats what the Fresh Air Vents are for. I rely on them exclusively. Lose the A/C If you wanna.
the us models dont have the fresh air vents....

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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What are you talking about? No fresh air vents... I have them...
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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I have them also...but its too damn humid down south here to be driving with the HUMID vents open...hehe
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyv13
If you want to keep your A/C, just unbolt it from the bracket, and move it out of the way, leave the lines attached, though.
by doing this, is there enough play for me to get to the power steering hoses???

ive already taken the bolt off on the the line farthest to the front. still need to get the bolt right behind it as well as the line behind that one. then im going to need to plug all three holes. after that im going to need to loop the lines on the passenger side of the rack. is this correct??
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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What are you talking about? No fresh air vents... I have them...
the canada cars have additional vents that bypass the climate control entirely. i dunno why, its really cold outside

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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the canada cars have additional vents that bypass the climate control entirely. i dunno why, its really cold outside

mike
First Gens hav them as well....
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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I ditched the AC. If it's hot I put the roof down; if it's raining I take the daily driver. No need for AC. And it's stupid that there are no fresh air vents in these cars. How hard would it have been? And if there are vents in canadian cars then why don't we have them? There can't be any legal issues about this. My 89' 626 has fresh air vents, but my 95' 626 doesn't. At what point did mazda decide to make us breath our own farts all damn day long?
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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Yes you are correct. you have listed exactly what is left to do.

Try moving the A/C pump to rear and that may give you enough room to get to the remaining bolts and hardware.

I am also going to be helping do this mod with A/C still i the car, so if you get stuck, I will post how we got it out.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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lol @ HUMID VENTS... in the summer if i have my AC on and i turn it to fresh air from recirculate, my vents literally blow fog into my car....

I cant see taking the AC off of a southern street car, but if you never use it why not. the gains from having just the belt of are minimal if even noticeable. the car feels the same with the AC turned off as it does with the belts off.

weight gainsfrom dropping the whole system are small but larger than most other things. 50# is what i have heard. for a street car, unless you are stripping out EVERYTHING you will never know the difference between AC and no AC.

they say every little bit counts and this is true, but i doubt any sane person would want to do enough "little bits" to make a difference on a street car.

i just dont see the use in sacrificing the little creature comforts for something unnoticeable. now removing something useless, like CATS and S4 Air pump, those i can see.

My $.02
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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I am confused about the fresh air vents. someone take a picture so we know what these things are.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Xentrix
I am confused about the fresh air vents. someone take a picture so we know what these things are.
most cars just use the regular air vents for fresh air with a switch on the vent to switch from outside air to forced air from the blower. Alot of late model mazdas do not have this feature which means you can only get fresh air from the window.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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HAH I live down here in San Antonio, TX and the summer is fucken humid as a bitch, my a/c needs to be recharged, and I get such bad gas milage as it is....I just took of the belt, and prolly will chunk it when I do my manual steering swap, while where on the subject, where do you loop the lines to convert the PS into a m/s sub....and what material and degree bends did you use?
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by RX-7Impreza
...i doubt any sane person would want to do enough "little bits" to make a difference on a street car.
You, sir, are correct! Lost mine a few weeks ago. BTW, didn't Adam remove them both as well?
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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i switched to an 86 non p/s rack and absolutely love it.
just be careful to tighten it all down as the drunkard that did mine didn't and when i was drivini the steering wheel kept spinning but the car stopped turnin. yikes!
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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i need a non power steering bracket! n e one have one? or a pic?
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