2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

EGT Gauge

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 07:20 PM
  #1  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
EGT Gauge

I have an Autometer Phantom EGT gauge. Its not hooked up and it reads190°F in the box.

Is this normal??

Ian
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 07:58 PM
  #2  
silverrotor's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Seriously bro? I highly, highly doubt the EGT Gauge, In the box, Is running those kind of temps. Sorry, I had to say that.

It's obviously caliberated wrong or simply broken.

FWIW, I have to ask. What does It read standing up straight?
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:55 PM
  #3  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
Makes no difference which way it sit's. I will call the manufactor to see about this. Its brand new. Would suck if I have to send it back and get it fixed. Just and extra cost

Thanks for the input.
Ian
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:01 PM
  #4  
Jimmy325i's Avatar
No longer cares
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 0
From: just a bit north of your business
If it's an electric gauge, then you need to hook it up with the sending unit attached and it should go to room temp. (needs a power supply to work)
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:06 PM
  #5  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
Really? It just surprised me that it was reading that high. I figured it would be either Full Scale or just reading 0.

Thanks Jimmy325i


Ian
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:06 PM
  #6  
silverrotor's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
IAN, I used to believe right out of the box Is supposed to be top notch. But a, doomed from the start, s.s Mazdatrix Clutch Line not only made me miss a 7 meet but I popped 3 Slave Cylinders within the process.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:08 PM
  #7  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
silverotor.

Are you going to the ottawa meet??
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:11 PM
  #8  
ponykiller's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 819
Likes: 0
From: KC
Here is the answer: They all are stuck at some number (random) until you hook them up. As soon as it recieves power (not just the light, but the actual sender unit) it will go to the actual temp. Do not call the manufacturer, and do not freak out about this. It is normal, they are all like this.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:12 PM
  #9  
Jimmy325i's Avatar
No longer cares
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 0
From: just a bit north of your business
Not all gauges center to 0 when power is off. When power is applied and there is no sender attached you should have a 0 reading.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:19 PM
  #10  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
Well tomorrow I will apply power to it on the bench and connect the termocouple.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Ian
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:44 PM
  #11  
silverrotor's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
ponykiller, that Is a good point however, you would think for visual "right out of the box" appearance sake, that the Gauge, Itself, would be fixed at 0. B'c I make things difficult, I would call just because. Maybe It's a Virgo thing.

IAN, yea I'll be there.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:50 PM
  #12  
BlackRx7's Avatar
Daily Domestic Killer
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,425
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio, Tx, USA
sounds like its a used piece, the autometer gauge goes to the max test after you shutoff the car......
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2003 | 06:15 AM
  #13  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
It's a new piece out of the box. I'm going to check it out today.
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 07:36 PM
  #14  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
I checked it out. Once 12v is applied the gauge zero's itself.
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 07:48 PM
  #15  
TonyTurboII's Avatar
Glock Lover
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,223
Likes: 0
From: Currently residing in St Charles, MO
Thats odd. My electric greddy gauges are both where they should be.
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 07:59 PM
  #16  
ponykiller's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 819
Likes: 0
From: KC
Originally posted by IAN
I checked it out. Once 12v is applied the gauge zero's itself.

Hmm, tough decision, do I say it?

Yes: TOLD YOU SO! just kidding
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 08:21 PM
  #17  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
Originally posted by ponykiller
Hmm, tough decision, do I say it?

Yes: TOLD YOU SO! just kidding
You did

Anyhow I was to stupid to wire it to the dimmer switch and just wired the gauges to the light switch. Pretty bright in the car now guess I will have to rip it out again

Thanks for the info!!!!!
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 08:41 PM
  #18  
chris-reedtn's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 775
Likes: 0
From: The Boro, TN
Originally posted by TonyTurboII
Thats odd. My electric greddy gauges are both where they should be.
Man thats the truth, Greddy is the ****! I personally hate guessameter.


-Chris
Reply
Old May 1, 2003 | 09:07 PM
  #19  
IAN's Avatar
IAN
Thread Starter
Rotary Reborn!
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 9
From: Canada
Yup but greddy was to much for me
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 12:35 AM
  #20  
TonyTurboII's Avatar
Glock Lover
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,223
Likes: 0
From: Currently residing in St Charles, MO
Originally posted by IAN
Yup but greddy was to much for me
Me too, so Mastercard picked up the bill.
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 12:57 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
From: WEST
All Autometer electric gauges does not re-set at 0 when power is off. That's what I've been told by Autometer .
If you see the electric gauges on the shelf, all of them are at a different point. Once power is applied, it will set at 0. You get what you pay for. HKS , Greddy, Defi, Blitz and other Japan gauges does not do this. All gauges you see on the shelf are at 0. Mech or electical.
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 11:20 AM
  #22  
Jimmy325i's Avatar
No longer cares
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 0
From: just a bit north of your business
Get what you pay for? How functional is the damn guage when the ****** is off?

I'm more concerned about how accurate the reading is than where the stupid needle points when you're rubbing your car with a diaper!
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 03:40 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
From: WEST
Originally posted by Jimmy325i
Get what you pay for? How functional is the damn guage when the ****** is off?

I'm more concerned about how accurate the reading is than where the stupid needle points when you're rubbing your car with a diaper!
What I'm saying is they are not as acurate as other gauges and do not last as long. I would want an acurate reading especially the EGT and temp. readings.
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 04:22 PM
  #24  
Jimmy325i's Avatar
No longer cares
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,345
Likes: 0
From: just a bit north of your business
Show me some proof of both of those statements.

Autometer is a very reputable company for instruments. They even outsource supply other gauge distributors who then sell their products as their own, as well as providing oem gauges. (not to mazda or I wouldn't have needed my mechanical temp gauge)
Reply
Old May 2, 2003 | 11:27 PM
  #25  
Wankel7's Avatar
Haven't we ALL heard this
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,948
Likes: 1
From: Indiana
Hell, you REALLY don't need a number to live by on your egt. Just see what it hovers around when at WOT and remember that. So you notice when it changes.

Besides, in your daily driving your not going to notice the EGT is 1749F. Your going to notice needle position. That is why race cars are setup where the gauge is rotated so that the needle is pointed up when it is normal.

So, when your are at 10psi of boost, blowing through 80mph, as oncoming cars are flying by, the road screaming under your tires, you start the small turn to the left, shifting from 3rd, see brake lights way up ahead, look in the review for a cop, AND SOMEHOW you then you NOTICE your EGT has gone from 1600F quickly through 1700F then dropping rapidly as your engine either detonates or pre-igntion occurs...you back off the gas....wait doesn't matter any more cause the engine is toast anyways.

If it all goes to hell and it runs lean I really don't understand how that gauge is going to save it all. Or is it more for tuning?


James
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:01 AM.