Does this need a friction plate?
Need a new one? Does it even have one on it right now? The surface where it should be looks the same color as the surrounding mounting surface for the pressure plate. Usually friction surfaces are a dark gray or brown color.
Pull all the bolts and see if a friction plate comes off. If it does, then you have a friction plate. If you don't, then you need a friction plate.
If you have one, measure it and see if its still good.
If you have one, measure it and see if its still good.
can't tell by those pics, the screws are installed but if it does have a friction plate on it then someone tried to clean it up and polished it so the pictures are undecisive.
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You could ask the seller to prove their is a friction plate. But I agree with need rx7, replace it anyway. It would be a big pain to put it in and then 5k miles later have to replace it.
i get tired of you guys mouthing off about stuff just because it is cheap. cheap is not always bad, and a lot of the parts we buy today are ridiculously overpriced just because they have a brand name on them.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
i get tired of you guys mouthing off about stuff just because it is cheap. cheap is not always bad, and a lot of the parts we buy today are ridiculously overpriced just because they have a brand name on them.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
Read this.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43713
Then STFU.
well, i guess thats pretty amazing that the stock clutch that they sent me is working so well for me then.
I don't get the point of your supra thing. First of all, I don't give a **** about supras. Second, so they are using aisin stock clutches and upgrading some of the parts. So? Thats what almost all of the aftermarket clutch places do.
The first one I had from them was a stock pressure plate with an XTD sticker on it and their 6 puck disk, that one held 450 whp fine but it started slipping any higher than that. The upgraded pressure plate they sent me fixed it and it works fine now. It even held up to ~700+ whp for a couple weeks when I had a bad boost controller and was way overboosting.
I don't get the point of your supra thing. First of all, I don't give a **** about supras. Second, so they are using aisin stock clutches and upgrading some of the parts. So? Thats what almost all of the aftermarket clutch places do.
The first one I had from them was a stock pressure plate with an XTD sticker on it and their 6 puck disk, that one held 450 whp fine but it started slipping any higher than that. The upgraded pressure plate they sent me fixed it and it works fine now. It even held up to ~700+ whp for a couple weeks when I had a bad boost controller and was way overboosting.
Since you fail at reading.
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The XTD clutch was actually 100ft/lbs LESS then the other stock unit we tested. His Ebay auction clearly states the XTD pressure plate is "35% thicker heavy duty" spring in it. I measured the XTD and stock springs, they are exactly the same thickness. He is clearly lying, and fooling people into thinking the XTD clutch will handle 35% more, when in fact it is stock.
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The XTD clutch was actually 100ft/lbs LESS then the other stock unit we tested. His Ebay auction clearly states the XTD pressure plate is "35% thicker heavy duty" spring in it. I measured the XTD and stock springs, they are exactly the same thickness. He is clearly lying, and fooling people into thinking the XTD clutch will handle 35% more, when in fact it is stock.
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I know that some people have had no problems with XTD, and some people have had nothing but problems or extremely short life. The lowest common denominator, is its cheap. Its cheap and the quality is not consistent. If you pay more for a higher quality brand you get that consistent reliability that is worth paying for.
And yes, you DO get what you pay for.
And yes, you DO get what you pay for.
You can even see in this pic that the clutch was painted as a whole. If they really changed springs the rivets would have to be drilled out and the pressure plate taken apart and would have been painted then.
i get tired of you guys mouthing off about stuff just because it is cheap. cheap is not always bad, and a lot of the parts we buy today are ridiculously overpriced just because they have a brand name on them.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
I have been running an XTD clutch on my car for 15000+ miles. I had one on the 13b when it was 400whp, and I am still using the same disk now at 600+whp, no problems. When I switched to the 20B I called XTD and the guy was very knowledgeable and spec'd me a custom pressure plate which works great.
Everyone on these forums thinks that if a thing doesnt have some famous name on it then its crap. Either of you guys personally ever had a problem with XTD? Im willing to bet not, so shut up. This kind of retardation is why a lot of small companies that make good products have a hard time starting up.
also, to the OP, it looks to me like the friction plate is on there and is fine, but it is hard to tell from the picture. What you are looking for is for it not to have any deep gouges in it, which it doesnt appear to, but also for it to be flat and not warped, which you can't tell from a picture. If youre getting a good deal go for it, you can always measure it and order a new friction plate if necessary, they aren't expensive compared to a flywheel.
