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Does the ECU ground have to be connected to the engine?

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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Does the ECU ground have to be connected to the engine?

Can I just ground it on something else metal ?
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Yes..
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by slitherz90gxl
Can I just ground it on something else metal ?
Ground it to the fire wall if you have to.

I wouldn't suggest starting any new threads. This question could have been answered in one of your other 2 threads.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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NO. The ground should go to the engine. This will help avoid ignition noise and help assure all sensors read correctly.

There are about a zillion bolts and studs on the engine that can be used for the ground.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
NO. The ground should go to the engine. This will help avoid ignition noise and help assure all sensors read correctly.

There are about a zillion bolts and studs on the engine that can be used for the ground.
Can you explain this for me?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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just find a clean contact spot on the engine. a bad ground will mess up the idle a bit i believe. But yeah you need a ground on the engine.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
NO. The ground should go to the engine. This will help avoid ignition noise and help assure all sensors read correctly.

There are about a zillion bolts and studs on the engine that can be used for the ground.
Aaron Cake, you know your stuff but I have to argue this one with you.

The engine is grounded to the firewall about 8 inches away from where the ECU is. There is a groundstrap to the engine at the starter, which also connects to the chassis at the driver side fender.

Ground should be 0v potential. Ground loops and ignition noise are indication of other issues.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Can you explain this for me?
I'm not sure what to explain. Several systems return to the engine for grounding (O2, ignition, etc) so the main ECU ground should go to the same place. Also, the CAS body acts as a shield and becomes continuous with the shielding on the CAS wire when the ECU grounds to the engine.

EVERY manufacturer grounds there ECU to the engine, for good reason.

Aaron Cake, you know your stuff but I have to argue this one with you.
The engine is grounded to the firewall about 8 inches away from where the ECU is. There is a groundstrap to the engine at the starter, which also connects to the chassis at the driver side fender.
Ground should be 0v potential. Ground loops and ignition noise are indication of other issues.
There is no such thing as a zero resistance connection, so even a well grounded engine will be at a different potential then the chassis. Pop a scope on the CAS signal and look at the noise levels with the ground on the engine versus the chassis.

It's all a moot point anyway. There are about a zillion places on the engine block to pull a ground for the ECU so this should be a non-issue.
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I'm not sure what to explain. Several systems return to the engine for grounding (O2, ignition, etc) so the main ECU ground should go to the same place. Also, the CAS body acts as a shield and becomes continuous with the shielding on the CAS wire when the ECU grounds to the engine.

EVERY manufacturer grounds there ECU to the engine, for good reason.



There is no such thing as a zero resistance connection, so even a well grounded engine will be at a different potential then the chassis. Pop a scope on the CAS signal and look at the noise levels with the ground on the engine versus the chassis.

It's all a moot point anyway. There are about a zillion places on the engine block to pull a ground for the ECU so this should be a non-issue.
I see what you're saying. I'm just not sure what it proves. What do you mean the CAS works as a "shield"? I can see that there is no reason to ground it anywhere else because of all the studs but I can't see how the engine block is a better electrical ground then the chassis.
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