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Old 09-22-04, 10:46 PM
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Exclamation Does anyone have any experience with the cp racing 4-point roll bar?

Does anyone have any good or bad reviews? its $275 pre welded and shipped which i think is a great price. what do you guys think?
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Old 09-22-04, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7 punk
Does anyone have any good or bad reviews? its $275 pre welded and shipped which i think is a great price. what do you guys think?
THere are threads on this site and teamfc3s that say it mounts to worthless spots. As you can see in the pics. It mounts to flimsy metal. I'd never trust one.
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very good point
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It'll most likely limit seat travel, so if you're tall this can be very bad.
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The roll bar doesn't have any triangles so, to me, it would seem to be nothing but a showpiece and added weight. I doubt it's functional.
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Where on the FC is a "good" mounting spot for a roll cage? Aside from cutting through the floor and attaching directly to the heavy subframes....This is a problem with any unibody car.
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all very good points but the website does claim that it is functional and that it does meet strip regulations
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now its 150 on ebay
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what did you look under to find it on ebay? i looked and can't find it
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Originally Posted by rx7 punk
all very good points but the website does claim that it is functional and that it does meet strip regulations
It probably does...If you want to know the story, just give CP a call or email.

I would quite like to know optimal mounting locations in an FC though. I've been doing some body work on my car lately, and the areas that the CP roll bar seems to weld to seem ideal.
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if you guys wait it out hell drop the price to 150 , hes been doing that for a couple weeks now , he raised the price twice and lowered it once in the past 2 weeks , so im waiting for it to drop to 150 again................I dont know though jegs 8 point roll cage (not pre-welded) isnt a bad price its $220 and some change , the only reason i would buy the cp cage because of the price $150 (per chance that it drops again) is a beutiful price , but if it stays at 225 or 250 , Forget that you can get a 8 point for 220 (around there) , But i guess it depends on what your looking for in a cage , if your buying one for looks then The cp is perfect , but if your Scca , or something then i guess 4 is a bit *ehhh*..AHHH anyways ya you guys understand me .........lol
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AHHHHHHHHH look RIGHT now its 150 and only 22 hours left !!!!!!!!!!
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they also have a pretty cool triangulated strut bar ,
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IMO, the optimal place would be about 6 inches further towards the outside of the car from where the feet sit now. The piece of metal it is sitting on now is fairly thin, where-as the sub-frame rail running front-to-back, that the cross brace intersects, is quite thick.
OK here's an uber-lame attempt at showing where I would put the feet.
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Like mine?
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Much better! The only thing I plan on doing differently for my cage is to make the rear down tubes into an X and have them go right to the top of the shock mount.
I'm also going to make mounting tabs and bolt the hoop to the chassis where the shoulder belts attached.
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not necessary, a little overkill but hey, each to their own. Glad to see others in the same boat. Another angle will better demonstrate the position of the rear drops and how I incorporated a tube between the towers also. PM me for more pics if you want.

We now return you to your regularily scheduled thread...
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What is the tube between the towers for?
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racer jason.......... is that a 10 pt??? thats nice!!
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Eliminates the need for an aftermarket brace running between the shock towers. Those simply bolt to your shock bolts (+1) and this is more functional.

Thanks it's an 8-point.
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Right, that's my question. What is it's intended function?
No side loads go through the top mount of the shock.
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The latitudinal rigidity of anything aft of the cabin crossmember (directly behind the seats in the FC3S chassis is moderately okay. While the car may not incuur side loads there is enough energy (and weaknesses) to merit fractional movement during highly spirited driving. In a some of the race cars I've driven or ridden in all you had to do was listen to hear the unibody twisting ever so slightly under the right conditions. So it simply increases the rigidity of the rearend, reducing surprise inertia. Can't hurt to have it there and since it shares the same mounting plates as the rear drops it helps reinforce there positions.
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That is a good place for the rear part of a roll cage. When I install mine, it will be an 8 pointer too. Jason, who is fabbing this for you?
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I am. Check out my sig. and PM me for information/quotes. My buddy and I have all the measurements and jigs to copy what we've already done in mine and we can customize it any way you want. Cheers!
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Originally Posted by racerjason
I am. Check out my sig. and PM me for information/quotes. My buddy and I have all the measurements and jigs to copy what we've already done in mine and we can customize it any way you want. Cheers!
Awesome. PM me some pics when you can and your contact info. You and I need to talk. FYI, I'm stripping the car next spring and rebuilding the engine. Im going to fix all the dents, rust, remove the sunroof and weld in a solid roof. This would be a great time to install a cage from the front strut tower to the rear strut towers.

Let me know.
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