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Does 120psi compression on t11 mean the seals are good to ?

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Does 120psi compression on t11 mean the seals are good to ?

Just wandering. The apex seals tell you the compression the rotory makes BUt cant you have bad oil and water seals and still have high compression ?

If yes then a engine with good compression can still blow smoke right ?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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yes a compression test only tests the compression seals, the apex corner and side seals. it does not test the water and oil seals. so a compression test is only a part of the picture

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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sooo can you overheat a 7 and still have full compression ?
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Originally posted by von
sooo can you overheat a 7 and still have full compression ?
my engine had horrible waterjacket seals, and when i got a compression test about a week before i parked it and tore it apart i got a compression test, all #'s were between 115 and 120 on all faces of both rotors

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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so do you guys suggest that I get my N/A rebuild orrrrr swap a t11 engine in with good compression ?

Thats my ultimate ?
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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A "good compression" engine may very well have horrible oil or water seals

I mean, you can have all apex seals intact and in pristine shape, only to have leaking oil and/or water seals, making the car undrivable. Ofcourse this also goes the other way around, but you cannot test the oil and water seals that easily....and if you have bad apex seals, you know it
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Did you do that compression check on a cold or warmed up engine?

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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cold very cold. Why ?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 03:29 AM
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Because doing it cold is not the time to do it. You should only do a compression check on a fully warmed up engine.

My theroy is that a cold engine should yeild higher numbers. When metal is cold it contracts. As it heats it expands. Different metals expand at different rates of course. The rotor housings should expand differently than the intermediate housings.

Need to do that check warmed up before you can bank on your numbers. Also, engine speed at which the test was done will affect your readings. The height above sea level will also affect your readings.

Download a service manual and find compression checks. They have graphs for compensating for higher than sea level and for engine speed during the test.

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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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what if its just cranking speed , cold , at sea level ?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by von
what if its just cranking speed , cold , at sea level ?
Then your compression will be higher than it will be when it is hot (when it counts)
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