do they make these for fc's?
03-08-07, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Tofuball
In my experience, FCs understeer naturally.
You want that in a RWD car.
You want that in a RWD car.
03-08-07, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jdmsuper7
Too bad that running JUST a front strut brace does tend to cause understeer in FCs. If you search, there were several long threads on it in the past.
03-08-07, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tofuball
Remember: A triangulated brace is not bolt-on. The firewall will need holes drilled in it, or plates welded to it. The firewall can be a thin and non-load-bearing part of the unibody in many places. Make sure you bolt in to a firm part of the firewall.
I can PUSH that area of the firewall with my thumb, and it'll give - try it!
You'll feel like Superman!
I always chuckle when people claim it's so much better.
-Ted
03-08-07, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Actually, the design is deceiving.
I think the GReddy design is the stiffest of all the front strut bars out there.
Remember, you're trying to reduce flex in the strut towers (bending inward mostly) to prevent unwanted camber changes at the wheels.
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I think the GReddy design is the stiffest of all the front strut bars out there.
Remember, you're trying to reduce flex in the strut towers (bending inward mostly) to prevent unwanted camber changes at the wheels.
-Ted
actually that fact that the bar is solid and it has bolt bolted on sport where the "joint" can flex is good enough in that.. I highly doubt there will be any flex with that bar bolted into place!
03-08-07, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by keithrulz
this one is mounted to the firewall at a bend where its stiffened naturally
-Ted
03-08-07, 10:19 AM
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lol its not covered in anything thats just shop vac hose i used for a day to break in the car at idle before my solid ic pipe came in. and you're right reted, obviously this is aimed toward those who have front mount
btw I didn't have a turboII hood and i already had that style tower. i didn't chuck the stock IC its front mounted now due to these 2 reasons, but i know what u mean
btw I didn't have a turboII hood and i already had that style tower. i didn't chuck the stock IC its front mounted now due to these 2 reasons, but i know what u mean
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03-08-07, 02:02 PM
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Strut tower bars don't make your car over or understeer, they just stiffen the frame. If the frame is weak up front it'll bend a little and you'll get more negative camber up front, if you don't want it to understeer after installing these get new springs or sway bars or shocks or something.
03-09-07, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TehMonkay
Strut tower bars don't make your car over or understeer, they just stiffen the frame. If the frame is weak up front it'll bend a little and you'll get more negative camber up front, if you don't want it to understeer after installing these get new springs or sway bars or shocks or something.
anything that effects your suspension will affect its tendancy to over/understeer.
strut bars make your upper suspension mount more solid. which reduced camber changes over bumps. by reducing you vehicles ability to absorb bumps it will translate into less grip under certain circumstances which would be understeer for the front or oversteer if it was in the rear.
it will make your suspension more solid and predictable my holding it to a more defined path but you're cars under/oversteering all come down to overall balance. if you make one end (front or back) significantly stiffer it will have a negative affect overall. you wouldnt put coilover in the front and leave the rear stock would you?
03-09-07, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by robtechfabrications
...if you make one end (front or back) significantly stiffer it will have a negative affect overall. you wouldnt put coilover in the front and leave the rear stock would you?
03-09-07, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TweakGames
where does the mazdatrix one mount to the engine? I cant really tell by those tiny pictures. Looks like the front alternator area?
that would be very stupid!
i hope you ment the engine BAY!
03-09-07, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by airworks-fc3s
er... the engine shouldn't actually be mounted to these bars...!
that would be very stupid!
i hope you ment the engine BAY!
that would be very stupid!
i hope you ment the engine BAY!
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