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do they make these for fc's?

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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do they make these for fc's?



im talking about the strut tower bar
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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dunno... but it would be pretty damn sweet!!
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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ive seen something like it. its just... strut to strut-strut to firewall-strut to firewall.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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mazdatrix makes a strut tower brace that ties to the firewall and has an engine torque brace on it. its like $350 though, but still very nice

http://mazdatrix.com/h7.htm
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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I personally cant wait to buy this



190.00 + shipping and with no joints it will be VERY stiff
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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cp racing used to make one like this
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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imo that one above is chimpsy looking and fraile
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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"Chimpsy" and "fraile"?
I can't tell if that means you like it or not....
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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I dontlike the one on the white turbo no. its looks easy to break. does not looks like it is supported very well..

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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wow i like the mazda trix one..but also like the racing beat a lot
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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where does the mazdatrix one mount to the engine? I cant really tell by those tiny pictures. Looks like the front alternator area?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SpooledupRacing
I personally cant wait to buy this
190.00 + shipping and with no joints it will be VERY stiff
Actually, the design is deceiving.
I think the GReddy design is the stiffest of all the front strut bars out there.
Remember, you're trying to reduce flex in the strut towers (bending inward mostly) to prevent unwanted camber changes at the wheels.


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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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im my opinion... too stiff of a strut tower can cause understeer.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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i didnt see a strut tower bar for the fc at greddys website. is it not made anymore?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by junito1
im my opinion... too stiff of a strut tower can cause understeer.

yes, that is your opinion... the facts and physics say other wise....

im no physisit but the more integrity you have in the suspension components I.E. strut towers, hinges, and ball joints the more consistant the contact patch will be with the road or racing surface. provided you have the correct setup, stiffer and stronger components will indeed improve handeling, not to mention durability and consistancy.

crap tires, crap shocks, crap springs, crap weather, crap surface. these are all things that can cause understeer.

the worst and lameist cause of understeer ...... A SHITTY DRIVER!!!
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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not to mention that most strut tower or any "lateral support bars" that people buy and slap on are incorrectly installed...most people do not even raise the car off of the ground before installation, thus not maximizing the effectiveness of the brace..
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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very good point!!

no intention of hijacking the thread, but what would be the ideal way to install sub frame connecters. cause im sure that if the lift were to tweak the chassis it would definitly cause some quirks in handeling...
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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hmm jack stands?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7


cp racing used to make one like this
I can personally vouch for the CP Racing bar. It was a b**** to install but was incredibly stiff and was instantly noticeable in both everyday and spirited driving.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Going to a 3 point bumps you out of Street prepared for SCCA auto-X ...so careful what you get if you're gonna race it. Check the rule book first. also check out www.Racingbeat.com they sell some nice stuff as well.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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weld one of those bitches together haha... grnated you have access to a welder. ive heard a couple of people doing that.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Remember: A triangulated brace is not bolt-on. The firewall will need holes drilled in it, or plates welded to it. The firewall can be a thin and non-load-bearing part of the unibody in many places. Make sure you bolt in to a firm part of the firewall.

IMHO: This is one of the last suspension mods you should do.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FastCompany
yes, that is your opinion... the facts and physics say other wise....
Too bad that running JUST a front strut brace does tend to cause understeer in FCs. If you search, there were several long threads on it in the past.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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In my experience, FCs understeer naturally.

You want that in a RWD car.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Does the firewall really provide that much support? It just doesn't seems like a sturdy place to mount something like that.

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Remember: A triangulated brace is not bolt-on. The firewall will need holes drilled in it, or plates welded to it. The firewall can be a thin and non-load-bearing part of the unibody in many places. Make sure you bolt in to a firm part of the firewall.

IMHO: This is one of the last suspension mods you should do.
Nevermind, Tofu answered this. Good job to my reading skills.

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